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Is My New Alexander Real?

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 Posted 07/30/2018  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Prometheus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just bought my first Alexander and have some doubts about authenticity... Any advice would be great. Thank you
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 Posted 07/30/2018  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prometheus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi..one more thing...it's 16+ grams and 28mm. The folks on another forum said it was cast...I just need a second opinion...the seller was not on the fake sellers list...and does accept returns...I love history and ancient coins..just not an expert in either...Again I thank you.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am going to agree with cast.
Very grainy and mushy detail on reverse.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prometheus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah... When I first got it it just felt wrong.. But I've been wrong before.. So here I am... Sad, but wiser.. Thank you so much...
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 Posted 07/31/2018  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does not have raised little bumps that indicate cast, but the rough texture does.

I won't completely write it off.
A surface like this can be the result direct soil contact in ground burial,
and acid cleaning with severe rubbing to clean it.

Would like to see the results of XRF analysis, looking for trace metals, not silver. The ancients could not refine silver above about 97%, hence the reason for looking for trace metals.

If it is of modern manufacture, the alloying metal would most probably be copper only, and nothing else.

Take it to a bullion dealer or a scrap gold buyer. That is where you will find someone with a hand held XRF instrument. They may charge a fee.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take sel_69I's advice.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prometheus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent advice.. I'm still waiverin
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 Posted 07/31/2018  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prometheus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vasilating...I just got up... Sorry.. The weight seems right and upon magnification it appears genuine. The seller said it was cleaned. It was only $100.. seems like a low price... Rather not return it if it is real... It does appear to be solid silver... Thank you folks again for all your wisdom and advice.
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 Posted 07/31/2018  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would second the opinion that it can't be written off although a coin in this condition needs to be viewed with some scepticism
I am going to assume you must have paid a "bargain" price
If you paid more than $30 I would send it back.
A badly worn common tetradrachm with more 'redeeming' qualities could be bought instead.
In fact one with a hole drilled through it would be preferable
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 Posted 07/31/2018  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A hundred dollars !!
Ouch !

A quick google search turned up this realatively recent CNG sale
While the six coins are all drachms I think you might get some insights
https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=344316
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Thank you all... The quality is not an issue for me.. I'm honored just to have such a piece of history, if genuine.. I bought another one that's been verified authentic...
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 Posted 07/31/2018  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

I agree with sel_69l totally indeed that is the way I do for all coins in my collection and I verified they all had trace elements found in genuine coins and silver purity can be another indication for example a first century roman denarii should be 90% or more specially in earlier half of 1st century the purity was 97% to 99% so if you found a roman denarii of augustus/tiberius/J.Caesar and it had less than 93% its more likely fake. Also for roman coins of third century the opposite rule applies they have silver purity of 45-75% if you see an instant with more than 90% then its suspicious. So this could be a great help although I heard some forgers take these into consideration but I am hoping not for common coins yet :)
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Once again I thank you...
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The surface of the coin would indicate either exposure to the environment or being cast. This is a coin the a novice collector should avoid. Was this and ebay purchase or from a dealer?
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EBay...said he'd take it back..I'm going to keep it as a reminder and example of what not to look for.
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