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What Are They And Are They Silver?

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 Posted 07/05/2008  02:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
this is just the first few of many many many coins that I will eventually post for identification and possible silver confirmation.



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07/17/2008 01:36 am
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 Posted 07/05/2008  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
The first group are Greek, all cupro-nickel (CuNi)
There's a CuNi Ireland 3 pence (w/rabbit)
The 1946 NZ 3 pence is .500 silver
The last coin, an Egyptian/Ottoman 5 Quirsh is probably CuNi

A time-saving tip: any coin that says Pfennig, Cent, Centimes, Centavos, Ore, Penni, are usually not silver, being the fractional denomination. You're more likely with coins bearing denoms such as Frank, Mark, Peso, Dollar, Kroner, Markkaa, and the older UK Commenwealth coins such as 3 Pence, 6 Pence, Shilling, Florin, Crown, etc. That's an incomplete list.
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 Posted 07/05/2008  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats so funny kurt! I picked these from the first page in my binder of world coins, on the following 30 pages I actually have lots of coins with the denominations you listed as possible silver content. I will post maybe 10 or so a day until I know what they all are and what they are made of. I better learn how to resize in a better way cause it takes me forever to get them to a size that fits!

thanks for replying
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 Posted 07/05/2008  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS's rule-of-thumb has many exceptions: there are plenty of cents, centavos etc that are made of silver, and plenty of dollars, pesos, shillings etc that are not.

Another very broad rule-of-thumb is age; the older the coin, the more likely it is to contain silver. A "silver-looking" coin from the mid-1800's or earlier is almost certainly silver; one from the early 1900's (prior to WWI) is probably silver, one from up to the 1960's might be silver, and anything from 1970 onwards that seems to have been in circulation is almost definitely not going to be silver.

Another good rule: if a "silver-looking" coin has a hole in the middle of it (like your Belgium 5 centimes and 25 centimes, coins #6 and #7), it probably isn't silver; many European countries used such holes to make it plain to people that these coins were not silver.

These are all general rules of thumb, and all have exceptions; you really need to find out the specific circumstances of each country's coinage to know for sure which coins had silver in them.

BTW, Coin 8 is a halfpenny from Jamaica, made of cupronickel. Coin #9 is a 5 pfennig from Germany, and made of iron. Of the 10 coins pictured, only this one should fly to a magnet.

If you'd like to do some research yourself for the coins that are easier to identify, buy or borrow a Krause catalogue. If you're interested in collecting world coins, you'd probably want to get your hands on a Krause catalogue anyway. Highly recommended reading.

There's also a website run by the people that print the catalogues, called NumisMaster. If you register with them (for free), you can look up their database, which will tell you what the coins are made of. If you want to know catalogue values, you have to subscribe with them (for a monthly or annual fee).
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Hi,
The first group are Greek, all cupro-nickel (CuNi)
There's a CuNi Ireland 3 pence (w/rabbit)
The 1946 NZ 3 pence is .500 silver
The last coin, an Egyptian/Ottoman 5 Quirsh is probably CuNi

A time-saving tip: any coin that says Pfennig, Cent, Centimes, Centavos, Ore, Penni, are usually not silver, being the fractional denomination. You're more likely with coins bearing denoms such as Frank, Mark, Peso, Dollar, Kroner, Markkaa, and the older UK Commenwealth coins such as 3 Pence, 6 Pence, Shilling, Florin, Crown, etc. That's an incomplete list.



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KurtS's rule-of-thumb has many exceptions: there are plenty of cents, centavos etc that are made of silver, and plenty of dollars, pesos, shillings etc that are not.

Another very broad rule-of-thumb is age; the older the coin, the more likely it is to contain silver. A "silver-looking" coin from the mid-1800's or earlier is almost certainly silver; one from the early 1900's (prior to WWI) is probably silver, one from up to the 1960's might be silver, and anything from 1970 onwards that seems to have been in circulation is almost definitely not going to be silver.

Another good rule: if a "silver-looking" coin has a hole in the middle of it (like your Belgium 5 centimes and 25 centimes, coins #6 and #7), it probably isn't silver; many European countries used such holes to make it plain to people that these coins were not silver.

These are all general rules of thumb, and all have exceptions; you really need to find out the specific circumstances of each country's coinage to know for sure which coins had silver in them.

BTW, Coin 8 is a halfpenny from Jamaica, made of cupronickel. Coin #9 is a 5 pfennig from Germany, and made of iron. Of the 10 coins pictured, only this one should fly to a magnet.

If you'd like to do some research yourself for the coins that are easier to identify, buy or borrow a Krause catalogue. If you're interested in collecting world coins, you'd probably want to get your hands on a Krause catalogue anyway. Highly recommended reading.

There's also a website run by the people that print the catalogues, called NumisMaster. If you register with them (for free), you can look up their database, which will tell you what the coins are made of. If you want to know catalogue values, you have to subscribe with them (for a monthly or annual fee).

Wow! Where did you people learn all of this stuff? I've never seen any of that coinage in my life.
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Like Sap said, there are many exceptions, although I've found my "rule" pretty true for the last 50 years or so.
Btw, I did look up every coin in Krause, with the exception of the 5 5/10 Quirsh.

"many European countries used such holes to make it plain to people that these coins were not silver."

Very interesting...I did not know that, but that's been my observation with holed European coins.
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07/05/2008 2:33 pm
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 Posted 07/05/2008  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last coin, the Egyptian Ottoman coin is not a 5 qirsh, but a 5/10 qirsh. It was struck during the reign of sultan Abdul Hamid II (accession year is shown on the coin : 1293AH = 1876). It also bears 11 as reign year, so it was struck in 1886 (1876 = year 1, 1877 = year 2, 1878 = year 3 and so on).
The Greek coins are: #1 : a 10 drachmai with effigy of king Constantine II; #2 : 2 drachmai with effigy of king Paul; #3 : 5 drachmai, also king Paul
About the Belgian coins: #6 is a 5 centimes with legends in French, monogram A for king Albert I; #7 is a 25 centimes with legends in Dutch (Flemish), with the same monogram A. Since 1886 Belgian coins are issued in French, Dutch (or Flemish, as we call the Belgian version of Dutch) or both languages.
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Sap,
That was an interesting bit of trivia - hole in center.
Now there are more of my brain cells consumed!!
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thanks so much! thats a lot more information than I thought I was going to get. Now I am definitely going to post more of my unknowns to see what I find out. I love this site. I'm almost hoping though that I will find something that will stump even you experts :)
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