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1909 5 Cent -- Cross Tie?

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I cannot figure out what constitutes a 1909 cross tie. These are clearly round leaves. Is this a cross tie? What is the definition of a cross tie?


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 Posted 08/11/2018  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a cross bow tie. Check the top of the imperial crown to see if there is a cross over a bow tie
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 Posted 08/11/2018  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An easy way to tell is look at the leaves.
A Bowtie has the Rounded Leaves variety.
A Cross/Bowtie has the Pointed Leaves variety.

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Correct typo


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So, if the crown has a cross on its top, it is a cross tie?

Coins and Canada says the variety is:
1909 - Round Leaves - Cross/Bow Tie

Likewise, reviewing the certified cross ties auctions listed on the Coins and Canada site show round leaves
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My error.
Looking at an older reference book for some reason.
Yes, the Rounded Leave has both versions.
The Pointed Leave only has the Cross/Bowtie.
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 Posted 08/11/2018  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So safe to say it's the maple leaf cross bow tie
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Should I slab it?
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Looks like Round Leaves, Cross over Bow Tie.
We'll worth slabbing.
Can you show us the obverse please.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Should I use a Canadian firm? Would NGC or PCGS recognize the cross over bow tie?


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