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1812 One Penny Thomas Halliday Token, Is This The Large Ship Or Small Ship?

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I just purchased this coin from a dealer in London. Looking at my old Charlton catalog, I'm not sure if this is the scarcer Large Ship variety LC-47B2 or Small ship LC-47B1. Can any of you Canadian Token experts set me straight?

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I'll see your ? and raise you two ?.
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I'm confused on this one I know nothing about these but wouldn't it need a ship to be a large or small? Could yoy Post a link to where is explains the difference maybe we could help figure it put
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The ship is in the area just above the bottom of her foot.
There is a way to tell if it is large or small by the figure but I'm not knowledgeable enough on these to tell.
That's also the double 1812 variety, some only have 1812
on one side.
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Does anyone have a photo of what the LC-47A2 and B2 should look like? My 3rd Ed. Charlton doesn't have very good photos.
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According to my Charlton Token book, you may have an LC-47A with an open wreath on the Obverse. There is no small or large ship for the 47-A1 or 2. The large and small ships are LC-47B1 and B2 which have a closed reath Obverse. Your coin is worn too much to see exactly what's in the cornucopia and I'm not sure of the wreath. Because your token appears to be in medal, rather than coinage, Charlton says that you have LC-47C1, which also has no large or small ships .. just rather the wreath has acorns or leaves and yours look like leaves, but lots of wear.. Both 47C1 and C2 are common (one medal & other coinage)and trend $20 in VG.
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Your token is LC-47A2. Neither LC-47B or LC-47C have a date on the reverse, while yours does.

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Thanks guys, that info helps a lot.
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