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Border Line Between Grade VF35 Or XF40 (1852 3CS)

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 Posted 08/27/2018  7:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add westoncm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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I am in consideration to buy this uncertified coin but I do have the option to buy the coin or bid at a lower value. After looking at the picture, it looks like the coin grade is VF35, not XF40.

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 Posted 08/27/2018  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures are pretty bad to try figuring out an exact grade. Bid VF35 and if you win hope it's XF40
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I think XF 40 is a fair grade, maybe even a little conservative. It looks like there's strong separation in all the lines on the shield, which you usually dont see in circulated 3CS. It also has a decent amount of relief on the star. If there's a return policy, and you want the coin, I'd buy it and if it looks good in hand, keep it.
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These pics are not telling the whole story on this coin .
When I buy a coin if I can't see close ups of the whole coin both sides, I would not buy it . VF-35 EF-40 , draw a straw if you really want it .
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Absolutely do not see clear evidence of EF from these pics. Can you ask for sharper shots? These really aren't very good.
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Based on multiple responses, I agree that there is more wear than what could be considered as XF40 but I will bid as VG. Below are pics that you requested....was copied from the seller's site (Collector's Corner)



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3 cent pieces can be notoriously difficult to grade. BStrauss3 is an expert on these.

I'd grade it in the VF range but would like sharper pics.
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I'd still bid low without seeing sharper pics.
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I see the rim as being non-distinct in some areas and the left side of the shield doesn't have distinct lines. Something happening in states? Low VF bid lower, as you say for a VG.

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Thanks everyone for kind response. I agree that a better pic would suffice to determine the grading. Majority of you feel that it is mostly likely a VG than XF which I believe it is, I plan to bid as VG. Once I do get the coin in my hand, this will help me to appraised fairly and if not, at least I can get a refund from Collection Corner.
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Quote:
Majority of you feel that it is mostly likely a VG than XF which I believe it is


Definitely better than VG.
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Don't forget westoncm there is VF between VG and EF.

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Kurrency K, you are right, I completely forgot about the VF. The more I think about it, it should be VG rather than VG but not EF.
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The type I's usually come weakly struck. Yours has a weak reverse, but you have sharp detail on the shield. The double line is almost complete all the way around. Your photos aren't the best for grading but what I see is an EF coin.
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IndianGolfEagle, thanks for your input....the dealer agreed to my lower bid and grading. Once it comes in, I will analyze it to see the details of the coin. I just happened to find the dealer's coin picture online. Just following my instinct... I will let you know.
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