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What Are These Marks Called?

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 Posted 07/14/2008  4:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I originally hi-jacked someone else's post to display a picture of a quarter I have with weird marks that seem to trail off the antlers. We have come to an agreement that they are not TRAILS but I still have not found out what they are and was hoping maybe someone else has seen them somewhere and know what they are.

The pictures are of 2001 quarters (there are two with the same marks)

the marks I am talking about originate from the top of the antlers to the rim and at the very end of the back of the caribou's neck, and on the other side from the front top of the queen's crown to the rim and on the other at the very bottom of the quarter near the rim.

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07/14/2008 4:24 pm
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 Posted 07/14/2008  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think they're anything more than whiitish tarnish or stain, but can't be sure from the pix.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Sometimes the lighting used in photos can cause an optical illusion that makes it hard to tell if things like that are raised bumps or depressions. Do the marks come up off the surface or are the little depressions?

Thanks,

Bill
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07/15/2008 12:43 am
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 Posted 07/14/2008  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WELL, it's very hard to tell even with the coin in hand. The are not depressions because when the coin is tipped to the side there are no dents there. But as for being raised maybe only very slighty, to me it looks like not at all. To my eyes they are just sitting on the surface.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like stains to me as well, but I'm not sure how to test it without potentially damaging the coin.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats my worry too. If it were just one quarter I could conclude even that something spilled on it in those areas but since it's 2 quarters from the same year with the marks in the same places I can't figure it out. and I dont want to rub at it or anything in case I ruin whatever it is.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh I didn't read that it was two quarters - that is sort of odd. Definitely looks fluid though - almost too fluid to be metal. <scratch that thought, it would not cause this>
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07/14/2008 11:03 pm
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 Posted 07/15/2008  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen this effect before on Canadian coins. It's a legitimate error. It's nature and origin is unclear to me. Some suspect it's due to breakdown of the chrome plating on the die face.
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 Posted 07/15/2008  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike,

That's interesting. I am going to have to root through some of more recently dated Canadian stuff to see if I have any like this.

Maybe we can figure it out:-)

Thanks,
Bill
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07/15/2008 12:46 am
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Thanks for putting your thinking caps on. I've been holding on to these for years now trying to figure out what it could be so I really hope someone here comes up with a definite answer.

thanks again
malissa
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 Posted 07/15/2008  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector 57 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found my 2001P quarter. And it is somewhat like Malissa,s around the horns. Malissa says the marks dissapear when you move the coin around. This is because there is luster on top of the marks. The marks are slightly raised , the closer to the horns, the more raised. Mine is different on the obverse, where these marks come out from the N in Regina and wierdly enough also on the N in Canada on the reverse. At first I thought it was missing plate but then I saw the luster on the marks. I have taken scans of my quarter and I will get Malissa to help me post them later on today. Very interesting quarter.
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 Posted 07/15/2008  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed this is fairly common on 2001 25 Cents and I have seen it on the 10 cents as well. The effect can be seen on some other years but is more abundant on 2001, if I run across any more I will post a pic. I have always returned mine to circulation because it seemed to be to common to keep, some of the ones I've seen have raised bits of metal within the flow lines. Just my "2 cents" worth
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 Posted 07/26/2008  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since the last posting I have found a few more quarters of this type as well as some dimes (all 2001). If this is a legitimate error, what is it called? Is there someone one the forum with a lot of experience that maybe I could send a couple to? Then they could see what I am talking about and maybe we could at least find the proper term. It looks silly on a 2x2 when I write 2001 quarter w/weird marks.

thanks
malissa
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 Posted 07/26/2008  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BJ Neff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Malissa - I would think that Mike Diamond is your best bet on finding the nature of what this type error is. He is away from home until the beginning of Aug., so I would try and reach him then. Try posting this on the CONECA forum site as well and see what happens.

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 Posted 07/26/2008  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh, that's a good idea BJ. I didn' realize that coneca has a forum as well. Thanks for the advice
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