Nova Constellatio 1785 Opinion On Grade

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theunsla Valued Member South Africa 112 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 12:42 pm The obverse seems to be struck quite far off centre. Is this quite a regular feature? Report this Post to the Staff

IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36745 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 3:43 pm Another very nice coin. In the VF range. Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 3:44 pm VF. Nice coin. Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11888 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 3:47 pm This is an interesting coin. It was the first use of "US" on a US coin. Note that southwest of the eye in the obverse, the definition of the con is terrible. This is likely due to a corroded and rusted die. It should show separate rays like it does in the northeast quadrant around the eye, but the die was in poor shape at this point. The coin itself does not exhibit corrosion. You can tell because the disturbances in the lower left quadrant are all raised metal, indicating rust cavities in the die. I would say it is on the high Vf, low xf range in terms of grade. Edited by numismatic student 11/01/2018 3:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 4:38 pm These are interesting tokens with a long history. Originally struck as patterns for Federal coinage, after being rejected, the design was used for privately struck tokens in Birmingham, England by way of a joint partnership with the aim of counteracting both a shortage of useful small change -- they were intended to pass at a halfpenny each, although underweight enough to earn a small profit -- and at the same time being of sufficient value as to drive out the poor-quality and badly underweight counterfeit British halfpence from circulation. While they did circulate in quantity in the US, they did not stop the British counterfeits. In the case of the one you post, the heavy die rust and unusual sawtooth denticles, combined with the pointed ray that ends just below the I in TIO, indicates that the dies are Crosby 3-B, the late die state with crumbling. I would grade your example above-average VF. For a higher grade example of the same coin/die state, see https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/.../1272-3026.s Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11888 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 4:51 pm I regard to whether it was prevalent that the strike was off center, I don't believe it was so much off center as struck on an undersized coin planchet. Note that you can see the denticles on one side of the coin and not the other. If it was off center you would expect to see empty space behind the denticles. Instead you see the denticles exactly where they should be on one side and miasing on the other. The planchet was too small and could not suatain the entire design. Lots of interesting details on this early American coin. Report this Post to the Staff
bandsdean Pillar of the Community United States 2125 Posts	Posted 11/01/2018 4:59 pm Funny you post this as I just bought one this week and is in the mail. This one is a very nice VF-30 in my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
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