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1804 1/2 Cent Variety Verification & The Effect A Cud Changes A Valuation

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This coin seems to be a C9 crosslet 4 with stems:

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/35155

The problems I am having center around how to find data on and evaluate the obverse Cud at 1 o'clock. Neither PCGS nor NGC seem to show this variation in their choices.

The '4' in the date seems to be a crosslet type as opposed to a straight type but the corrosion at that exact point makes it difficult to make a 100% determination.

Fortunately, the lined-up leaves and the slightly right-tilted 'T' of CENT make this C9 match more likely than not.

Opinions on the variety and how the Cud would affect its valuation are needed.

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A little extra help on the date:

* the full date:

1804-1/2-Cent-Variety-Verification-&-The-Effect-A-Cud-Changes-A-Valuation

* only the '4', color-contrasted with the background:

1804-1/2-Cent-Variety-Verification-&-The-Effect-A-Cud-Changes-A-Valuation
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To me it looks like the C-9 variety ..... obverse scratch distracting. NGC does show this variety with and without the obverse Cud ( if I am correct about it being C-9).
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C-9 late die stage either Breen VI or VII (The Cud first appears on stage V). This variety has a faint crack through the centers of IBE in state II which becomes heavy nn state VI. You coin clearly shows the crack as heavy where it passes through IB and a little weaker from B to E. I can't see the heavy crack from rim-4-bust- rim at 4:00 that would indicate VII.

All but one of the 1804 obverse had crosslet 4's so having a crosslet doesn't mean a lot.
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