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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Heymikep
02/06/2019 10:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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They both have approximately the same amount of detail remaining. The first one has been improperly cleaned and should be noted as such on the holder. These traditionally VF+ pieces are XF40 by modern TPG standards. The first XF Details - Cleaned, the second a straight graded XF40. |
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Quote:They both have approximately the same amount of detail remaining. The first one has been improperly cleaned and should be noted as such on the holder. These traditionally VF+ pieces are XF40 by modern TPG standards. The first XF Details - Cleaned, the second a straight graded XF40.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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The first is VF Details Cleaned, the Second is AU Details Light Cleaning
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First XF-details cleaned Second XF-40 straight grade. If it has been lightly cleaned, I think a TPG would find it market acceptable and straight grade it. The coin has more wear than my 1853 PCGS XF-45 without motto half, so I gave it a 40. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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EF details (cleaned) and EF-40 by today's standards, I agree.
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Bedrock of the Community
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1st EF-45 details, scratched
2nd EF-40
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm going to guess the first one graded higher at a TPG, although I definitely prefer the second coin. |
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I would tend to agree with most of the comments with the first being a details coin  and both at EF40. Here are the results.   |
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Significant number of comments feel first coin was a cleaned details coin. In my opinion it wasn't even a close call. That PCGS straight graded this harshly cleaned coin, presumably finding it "market acceptable," is disillusioning. Certainly a reminder to buy the coin, not the holder.
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Bedrock of the Community
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On the cleaned coin there are also marks on the reverse over the wing that look like graffiti.
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Pillar of the Community
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The first should be in a cleaned holder, the second as well. The spots on the obverse are unmistakable. TPG's aren't infalliable |
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Posted 02/06/2019 6:51 pm
