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1812 Classic Head Large Cent - Authentic?

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Had my eye on this one. It was bid to $55 + $3.50 shipping. Was thinking on bidding $66 + shipping but didn't pull the trigger because I had some concern about authenticity. Ended up selling for $58 + sh so I probably could have picked it up. Thoughts on grade, and problems (especially authenticity)? Thanks!

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If real, that's the sm. date variety.
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main concern is the reverse rim bleeding into the lettering... off-center strike in a collarless press?
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Authentic, cleaned, ED, I'd say VG details, no eye appeal, yuk, hopes that sums it up.
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MDS Obverse and VLDS Reverse. VG8
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Authentic, VG details net AG, porous

The rims may have been rolled as seen in " Dryer Coins", accounting for the odd positioning.
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typical granular planchet for this series. VG8 details
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Quote:

"main concern is the reverse rim bleeding into the lettering... off-center strike in a collarless press? "

That seems to be a common occurrence when the dies are severely worn. It is called 'die flow' and results, from what I have read', in the edge legend 'flowing' into the rims. You can see something very similar in this 1812 S-289 in my collection:







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VG-10 details, still a nice hole filler.
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VG straight grade, surfaces are typical of the planchets and good in my opinion
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I see nothing to indicate that it is not authentic
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