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Went Shopping And Came Home With What? | French, British

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I went to try a different coin store today in my search for a new store closer to my new home. The store personally for me was not my style, but I bought stuff anyway.

I went through a bag of british large pennies and came out with a couple things that are weird.
Any opinion, identifications or comments are welcome and appreciated.

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Went-Shopping-And-Came-Home-With-What?-|-French,-British
Went-Shopping-And-Came-Home-With-What?-|-French,-British
Went-Shopping-And-Came-Home-With-What?-|-French,-British

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Went-Shopping-And-Came-Home-With-What?-|-French,-British
Went-Shopping-And-Came-Home-With-What?-|-French,-British




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 Posted 08/28/2008  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 Looks like a British fourpence, also known as a "groat" or "joey".

#2 is French, from the Second Empire period (mid-1800's). I can't pic the date or denomination from the pic.
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Sap assumes the first coin is a small silver coin, but the design and legends don't fit for a groat. It'a a bronze coin, isn't it? Then it must be, depending on the size : 20 mm : farthing; 25 mm : halfpenny; 30.81 mm : penny

On the second one I can read DI. for DIX CENTIMES, so it is a French 10 centimes with Napoleon III bare head, struck in Lyon (mint letter D)between 1853 and 1856.
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Sap assumes the first coin is a small silver coin, but the design and legends don't fit for a groat.

Actually, it was the colour, and the milled edge more than anything else, which made me assume it was a silver coin; and the only British silver coin to to feature Britannia seated design was the groat. But you're quite right, bart, the design of both obverse and reverse are distinctly wrong for the groat.

It's not a farthing; now that I know where to look, there's clearly the "..NY" of either HALF PENNY or ONE PENNY, above the ship on the reverse.

Looks like some enterprising contemporary criminal has notched the edge, then plated it to make it look silvery; a silvered halfpenny might pass as a shilling, a silvered penny a florin or halfcrown.
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