1828 Small Wide Date Large Cent Value?

First question is, is it really a small wide date? No pictures so can't tell, and I would trust a TPG attribution without confirmation. Second the small wide date is an R-1 coin, VERY common and in lower grades such as VG and Fine easy to locate Personally I think those prices are way overinflated. I think they would be more reasonable if you dropped the 1 off the front of them.

Check ebay sold values for an idea on value.
John1

Firstly, I am sure that it is a Small Wide date, which wasn't really my question. And where did you get that rarity estimate? PCGS says it is an R-5.4 so I'm confused And thank you for the help kanga and john, I looked at ebay already but they didn't have many sold so I am finding auctions now.

PCGS uses their own rarity scale which pretty much no one else uses. Most of the world uses the Sheldon rarity scale which is what I quoted. PCGS's R5.4 is listed as an estimated 750 to 800 pieces. The Sheldon R-1 would be over 1250 estimated to exist. I think I would trust the estimates of the copper community over PCGS, especially when Historical trends seem to show that they have a tendency to be conservative and under estimate survivals. Also PCGS tries to split hairs too finely. Once you get past a Sheldon R-5 31 - 75 known there start to be too many coins in existence to pretend to be precise about existing numbers.

And you are right it is the small date.

Sheldon Rarity Scale
R1 Over 2000 estimated: Very Common, readily available
R2 601-2000 estimated: Common, not too difficult to find
R3 201-600 estimated: Less Common, available at most shows, but in limited quantity
R4 76-200 estimated: Scarce, somewhat difficult to find, only a few likely at larger shows
R5 31-75 estimated: Very Scarce, may or may not find at larger shows or auctions
R6 13-30 estimated: Rare, unlikely to be more than 5 for sale anywhere in a year
R7 4-12 estimated: Very Rare, almost never seen, only one may be offered for sale in a year
R8 2-3 estimated: Prohibitively Rare, one may be offered for sale once every 5 to 10 years
R9 1 estimated: Unique, or nearly so

At the common end of the scale there are couple different number break downs used, Other sources use 600 to 1250 (or 1500) for R-2 and either over 1250 (or 1500) for R-1. This scale has been in use since at least 1949 and is the most commonly used one. Collectors of tokens may use a 1 to 10 scale, and then there is the open ended "Universal Rarity Scale" that goes from 1 to infinity on a progressive scale, but which is really useless once it gets past 11 because beyond that it is really impossible to keep up the pretence that you have any idea of the surviving specimen count.

Universal Rarity Scale
Rarity Number of known coins
URS 0 None known
URS 1 1
URS 2 2
URS 3 3 or 4
URS 4 5 to 8
URS 5 9 to 16
URS 6 17 to 32
URS 7 33 to 64
URS 8 65 to 125
URS 9 126 to 250
URS 10 251 to 500
URS 11 501 to 1,000
URS 12 1,001 to 2,000
URS 13 2,001 to 4,000
URS 14 4,001 to 8,000
URS 15 8,001 to 16,000
URS 16 16,001 to 32,000
URS 17 32,001 to 65,000
URS 18 65,001 to 125,000
URS 19 125,001 to 250,000
URS 20 250,001 to 500,000

Ok, thanks.