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Valued Member
United States
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I like almost all Canadian Coins but my favorites are probably the large cents.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Sounds like some great sets in the group!
I am currently working on hunting down varietys for Large cents, I just finished getting one for every year, and a few of the more common varieties. I am now hunting down all the little ones. My goal is to have every known variety.. byt the time I'm 80, haha.. 60 years from now.
I am also working on upgrading my small cents. That set is complete also, but now I want to do it in MS for a second set, so that is taking a while.
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I've got some bad news for you, snaz, about finding "all" the large cent varieties. I have conservatively well over 4000 Vicky large cents, with nearly 500 1859's alone, and probably look at another 10,000 a year through local shows (T.O. area) and ebay. I've been collecting Vicky LC varieties for 30 years and still am not close to "finding them all". You do realize, of course, that there are over 300 varieties of the 1859 alone, and I'm not talking die cracks or breaks, but rather repunches, spacings, fonts, vertical postioning, etc. Get your hands on the 6 Hans Zoell pamphlets, a copy of Jack Griffin's "Large Cent Varieties of No America & Canada" (currently the Bible) and Rob Turner's recent books on Provincial Large Cents. The Griffin & Zoell books are hard to find, but Rob's books are new and readily available. I've seen, but never used Charest's book because I'm too much of a traditionalist for the older texts and Blais's book I consider self-serving fiction. You are coming in at a good time into this field (a little late and a start 5-6 years ago would have been better) as Canada cents are gaining popularity and varieties even more. |
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Canada
351 Posts |
I'm aware of all of it. It's a hefty challenge but I'm ready. And I was in the game 5 Years ago. I started when I was 9 or so.
But thanks for the reference books. I don't have any Griffin and Zoell books so I'll be sure to hunt them down.
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11/10/2009 1:17 pm
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7-8 years ago, before variety collecting started to become popular again and because every 30-40 years or so things turn out to come back into fashion again, I (and a few others) still found 1884 Obv 1's in scrap bins and certainly many more just marked as '84's. I have found about 20 of them so far and still have 10 or so. The same with other truly scarce varieties that no one before had the interst or knowledge to see what they had. All those things have changed in the last 5-6 years, as a great deal of research has been completed and talk has been generated by this "newly-found" field of collecting, especially Vicky Large Cents. As I stated before, I have been at it for well over 30 years and I still find new things, even unattributed to Zoell or Griffin. I have all of Griffin's rarity 8's (less than 10) for all Canada & Province Large Cents and all buttwo of the 7's . For comparison, DP#1's are Griffin rarity 6 and almost all the #2's are R-5's, as are the 9/8's. It will be a life-long challenge for you, regardless the grade or condition you are looking for, as some may only have 5-6 left in existence anywhere in any grade.
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United States
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Despite the large amount of info now available to collectors, few really spend the time to absorb it or do anything with it. Although, with some of the better known varieties (that are still under priced), the supply has tightened up. But as for the lesser known varieties, the field is still fairly ripe for finding rare and very collectible pieces at good prices. And when you know what to look for and where to look, its surprising how easy they are to find. As for a denomination with the most varieties throughout the series, the likely candidate is 5 cents coins. In it are hundreds of varieties from 1858 right up to the present, some of which will prove to be very collectible in the years to come. A few of them are only just emerging on collectors "radar" now, with more to follow in the future...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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oklacda, Not all of us collectors have the literature that you refer to what would the list of R-8's that Jack Griffin labeled for Canadian large cent coin be?
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There really is no "list" of R-8's. Each of Griffin's coins (they are written descriptions only) have both the important salient points and a "rarity" assigned, from 2(rare) to 8(common). The scale actually goes from 1 (very common) to 10 (extremely rare), but the coins themselves only go to 8. Since Griffin subcategorized each coin by Obverse type and the actual date spacings, it's sometimes tough to transfer what he had in words to what you have ion your hand. Jack didn't find everything, as some of us have discovered probably 20-30 that Jack never saw, including a couple 59's, the Zoell R2B and the 9/6, as well as another low/high. It starts with an 1858 small date (the one cent looks smaller) and ends, suprisingly, with a special 1919. He has 2 R-8's that I don't think should be and 2 7's or just "special mentions" that should be 8's. The 1881's have 2 R-8's.
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Valued Member
Canada
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woops, I lied. I do have some Hans Zoell books. 1st and second edition. They were in the back of the bookshelf, :)
But now I'm looking for the 3rd edition.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
650 Posts |
I have less than 20 to fill in I have completed 1cent 5cent 25 cent and !.00 have 7 10cent and about 6 50 cent to go for varieties , Why I do not know It is a compulsion , but fun
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New Member
Canada
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Wow... Mr. canada - good for you! I'm stuck with 1 cents & half dollars but I've come to like the early sets... especially the old red cases... I've got to get me one of those soon....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
650 Posts |
Are you looking for single $ or the Prestige and Proof sets I have a few sets I will list if you want .
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
650 Posts |
Sorry Curtis I did not realise you just joined I will post them for sale down the road, Hope to see you around this site from time to time.
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New Member
Canada
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LOL... that fine Mr. C... rules are rules. I think the charlton catalogue calls them case five (1870) / case six (1908) and case seven (1911). The 6 and 7's are the two I'm interested in. I'd eventually like to get the black specimen case from 1970 as well. There was a a case 6 on ebay awhile back - it was killing me not to pick it up. I watched it for some time and I don't think anyone bought it. Whoever held the auction, just kept re-listing it.... man that was three weeks of hell.... The more and more times I visit this site... I start to get the itch again. I haven't made a decision yet, but maybe it will be dimes next, since the half's I need all cost a pretty penny (ya, I know, bad joke). |
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Canada
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I am collecting double dollar sets (1971 - date) Still need a few.
I have most proof like sets (1959 - 2000)
Currently working on Canadian Silver dollars. ICCS certified if I can get them.
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