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Just Got This 1969 D No Initials, Floating Roof

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 Posted 08/28/2019  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ive given my opinion, I could be wrong, but like I said that looks to be the upper curve or the g to me.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well then if we all are going to continue to be wrong , Might I suggest you send it in to PCGS or a grading comp. of your choice and see what they say. At this point you are not willing to except any reply's, so please do send it in..
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 Posted 08/28/2019  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did an enlargement and overlay of the OP's coin and a coin that has a full FG. In this animation it looks to me like the coin not only shows a shadow of the G, but most of the F also.

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 Posted 08/28/2019  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinTheTerm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done I agree initials showing
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 Posted 08/28/2019  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have noticed in many coin groups a kinda "sour grapes" attitude by many members. Reluctant to congratulate and quick to find fault even in the most minuscule and insignificant stuff.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  01:56 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ikuna

We are actually quick to congratulate, BUT the reason needs to be confirmed first, no matter how insignificant it may seem. The "floating roof" and lack of "FG" is caused by die polishing. There were many dies and many polishings going on. Most of the dies did not get polished enough (or weren't yet...) to completely remove the roof attachments and initials. Since those are the only requisites for this, we have to be very picky about what qualifies.

In your first pics, there is a very clear roof connection on the left side. That instantly disqualifies it. I, like others, can also see parts of the "FG" in those. Posting new pics where the lighting is adjusted to hide those elements was not needed.

I'm sorry it's not quite the real deal, but they are out there. Keep searching and keep asking questions. We are all here to help each other.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ikuna: NOT to be rude but Is it at all posable your being a bag of SOUR GRAPES ? The people here are giving the answer as to what you are asking and what they see. Looks like your NOT willing to listen or except the reply,s given. SO MOVE ON please don't be rude.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bamaboycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Dave Errors on making the point of: if your certain it is what you see it is , then send it in for grading.

also with what the veteran members have tried explaining as their opinions based on what they see.

I completely disagree with how your handling the situation. Everyone of those guys are always quick to congratulate, encourage, share tips, admit when wrong, and give their honest evaluation as to what their looking at.

The roof shows slight attachment so therefor cannot be considered a "Floating roof". Also, if theres a faded marking of the G due to over-polishing, then it cannot be considered "No FG"

Sorry, not sorry

P.S.- Whenever you ask for opinions, be sure you can handle them disagreeing with you. Otherwise keep it to yourself
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 Posted 08/28/2019  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ikuna,
If you send it in,use ANACS they charge the least.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My coin does not display any hint of the Fg but like most circulated coins it would have some marks here and there due to PMD. A mark close to where the Fg suppose to be is not the tail of the g or anything like that. It is Post Mint Damage. What is funny about these groups is if having an Fg was considered valuable in this coin then you would hear these same people saying that they are not seeing it. In fact they would be 100% convince that it is Post Mint Damage.

Now Yokzona is drawing an FG in my picture. Crazy. I now see it now someone has drawn it into my pick. Yes there it is. Thanks for the drawing. Maybe I could draw in a Close AM one day.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the various opinions. Because I got my son with 20/20 vision to inspect the coin in detail under magnification before I posted and he is extremely hard and skeptical yet he did not see any Fg and agreed the roof was fully detached I say we would have to agree to disagree. I don't live in the US so grading it right now is out of the question.
Thanks again for your contributions.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, this is pretty sad. You said Yokzona is drawing on the image? Heres a screenshot I took of the picture from your first post and- whats this? An FG clear as day. I really dont understand what your trying to achieve by calling us all liars when you clearly just havent done enough research.

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I'm out.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fg. Which one of the dark spots ?
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 Posted 08/28/2019  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm out too.
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