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Would You Settle For A Cleaned Coin In An ANACS Holder Or Wait For Better Example To Come Along?

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 Posted 01/24/2006  10:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Scavenger to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The coin in question is graded AU55 which is actually pretty high grade. If you did buy a coin that had been cleaned, (marked on the holder), in a few years will it tone over or just always be a cleaned coin?
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 Posted 01/24/2006  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy29 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends. If it was an old, light cleaning that has retoned nicely and I liked its eye appeal even as it is now, I'd still consider it for a raw collection, particularly if it could be picked off for a substantial discount. (I wouldn't keep any "problem coins" in a slab unless authenticity were important for that particular coin.)

But if I don't like how it looks now, I wouldn't buy it because I wouldn't assume it would improve over time.
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 Posted 01/24/2006  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats a tough question to answer? Kind of like can you tell me the weather for my birthday next fall? A lot of it would have to do with how the coin was cleaned?
Now, would I buy a cleaned coin? Well, like it or not most of us have as so many of the old classics got a little cleaning years ago and even though it didn't seem so to the naked eye, at the time of purchase, a closer look revealed the truth. Now you must ask yourself how badly do you want the coin? How does it compare price wise to an uncleaned coin? And how available is this particular coin to the average collector today? After you answer those questions you should know what you NEED to do. You can always do as I do, bust it out of the slab so you don't have to read "CLEANED" for the rest of your life?
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 Posted 01/24/2006  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would buy another one .
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Sometimes, lightly cleaned coins are discounted so deeply that it is well worth having them. Old, light cleaning doesn't damage the eye appeal too much, although heavy cleaning certainly does.

For me, it depends. Since I like to hoard low-value coins, I don't have a problem with buying cleaned coins to throw in my cabinets of little plastic drawers where I keep my lower-grade circulated coins. If I can buy two cleaned coins for the price of one uncleaned coin, so much the better. I don't like holed coins, however; that is going a bit too far.

But when I want a really nice example of a particular design, i.e. my 1917 (Type 1) quarter, St. Gaudens $20, proof Indian Head cent, or my most attractive Lincoln Cent (a beautifully-toned brown unc. 1910), I will generally not accept cleaning, but I might accept old light cleaning on a high-grade circulated example. As for the slabs, I'm glad ANACS will slab problem coins; the only use I have for slabs is an authenticity guarantee when I purchase something that might be faked, and problem coins need to be authenticated just as much as "perfect" ones.

The coin will, of course, always be considered cleaned; the effects are still visible even after the coin has retoned. If you leave it in the slab, it won't retone very rapidly anyway.

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 Posted 01/24/2006  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many years ago lightly cleaning coins was a common practice. Some people equated a shiny coin as being more desirable. I do not care for heavily toned coins. As far as owning cleaned coins if I like the way it looked I would keep it. If the chance to upgrade to a no problem coin came along and the price was reasonable I may upgrade.

I have submitted hundreds, if not near a thousand coins to TPG's over the years and prefer ANAC'S because you get something for your money if there is a problem. I also think they grade the most accurately. Even now you can request a net grade for no additional fee if you want one. There is still a part of me that prefers raw over slabbed, but my buying habits have changed to primarily on line purchasing and I prefer the added security of a slabbed coin. I have broken out hundreds of coins over the years. I really think it is a matter of personal preference! Mike

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I am not averse to collecting damaged coins (I have a holed type set, in fact) but it all comes down to eye apeal. How does it look? and will it continue to please you to own it? If at some time you "will need to upgrade it" then save yourself the time and expense and just save to buy what will please you in the long run. If this coin will make you happy long term, then by all means, get it quick!
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 Posted 01/24/2006  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CT, That is really a great piece of advice! Mike
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 Posted 01/25/2006  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not that long ago, I was given the choice of a Bust Half Dollar from a group. Most had not been cleaned, but the one that really caught my eye had been. I knew it and sent it to ANACS because I wanted it in the slab for protection and also because I had one of Terry's holders and wanted it displayed. The cleaning did not bother me in the least. So I guess my answer is I would take the cleaned coin (sometimes).
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 Posted 01/25/2006  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does have a psychological effect on me, and yes it bothers me. Since I have been burnt buying a few of these in ebay, I just learn from them, experiment, (on silver coins only), and move on.

I bought 3 $20 Gold Saints, 1 was whizzed, 2 were cleaned according to NGC & PCGS. I gritted my teeth and figured out away to sell them.
Since I could not in good conscience go back and sell these off to an unsuspecting newbie, I came up with a novel way to sell them. For all 3 I bought high end diamond cut bezels in 18k gold. Sold one on ebay, sold the 2nd one to a coin jeweler at last years FUN show in Ft. Lauderdale, and the last one? Well this 1915 S MS65+ beauty is mine. PCGS says it was cleaned but for the life of me I can't tell--I bought me a gaudy HUGE 18k gold chain, changed the loop on the bezel and now I wear this guy when I want to "show off". This investment setup goes for almost 4K, if not more now with the gold prices climbing..Do I like cleaned coins? NO, but yet I wear 1 around my neck every once in awhile--
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