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Sudanese Coin Date Question (20 Qirsh 1895)

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According to KM#26.1, this coin is from AD 1895, which corresponds to 1312 AH. The year of the reign (12) is ignored. Or does the number above represent something else on Sudanese coins?

This also does not match the accession date of Abdallahi ibn Muhammad Al-Khalifa of Sudan [1885-1899].

Coin is 18.70g, 34.30mm.

Can anyone shed a light on this please?

Also any idea of the grade of this coin?

Many thanks!

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Yes, good attribution and interesting coin. My Krause World Coins 19th century lists a 1312/12 version of this 20 Piastres coin, mint Omdurman.
I do see several date combinations listed which don't correspond to regnal years.
I was thinking that maybe if Abdullah ibn Mohammed took power in very early 1885 and the coin was struck in very late 1895, and accounting for the shorter lunar year, it might be RY 12, but this doesn't quite work (still only 11 years).

Personally I would grade this coin VF, with a (probably normal) weak strike at spots around the edge.
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Thank you, Seeker!

So I dug deeper and found a couple of interesting articles about these coins (links below).

According to these, the coin is indeed from AH 1312 / AD 1895. 12 is simply the number of years since AH 1300. The coin masters at the time were copying Ottoman "Medjidie" dollars (20 Piaster coins) and some of them were simply confused by the meaning of the two numbers (accession and regnal years). So they just counted years since the start of the century. This also happened to be when the Khalifa was meant to begin his rule according to prophecies. In some cases, the coin masters were just integrating the number into the design.

The articles report a very messy situation regarding the minting process, with many coin masters having limbs amputated as punishment for counterfeiting coins, which led to unskilled workers having to take over the job. Each was using a new "recipe", sometimes involving just molten cutlery. In turn, this led to more amputations and people unable to carry on their duties.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/417157...tab_contents
https://www.jstor.org/stable/426797...tab_contents
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