Help Grading Venice Zecchino - Coin Community Forum

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Author	Replies: 7 / Views: 1,172
stratocaster Valued Member United Kingdom 240 Posts	Posted 11/07/2019 01:14 am Hi! I don't fully trust my grading skills, so it's always great to hear your opinions. Thanks in advance! This is 1 Zecchino, Republic of Venice, Marcantonio Giustinian (1684-1688) Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 11/07/2019 04:23 am VF (British grading). I don't think that it is possible to apply Sheldon grading standards in this case. Too many different factors affecting the overall condition (and thus value) have to be considered, which Sheldon doesn't address. I have about 200 or so 13th to 19th Century European hammered and milled gold and silver coins in my collection. Perhaps some collectors of English hammered and milled coins may wish to offer a further opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 11/07/2019 09:00 am Couldn't begin to grade it, but that's a beautiful coin for sure. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 11/07/2019 4:03 pm In that, I agree. Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7960 Posts	Posted 11/07/2019 4:21 pm I agree with both comments. When I look at coins from this era that DO have a grade from NGC or PCGS, I tend to agree with sel_191's viewpoint, or at least I would say that the grade often bears no relation to the eye appeal of the coin. A CoinArchives search on Venice zecchino NGC turns up a handful of mostly MS graded specimens that nonetheless are informative. Here is a later zecchino, poorly struck and with far less eye appeal than yours, that earned an MS-62. https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...8b6d533c644e You can also find this UNC details coin from less than a decade later than yours. https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...534e89d525fa I don't think yours is that far away. I think it's a well struck coin with strong details all over, maybe some light traces of wear (I do not claim to have great skill at discerning wear vs worn dies or other pre-circulation issues that affect appearance). So I would be a bit higher, in the EF to AU ragne. Edited by tdziemia 11/07/2019 4:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7960 Posts	Posted 11/09/2019 10:01 am @strato, as luck would have it, I just ran across this example of the same coin (same doge) that graded MS63 by PCGS. https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...474&lot=1440 Again, to my eye I do not see your coin being too far off from this, but would be interested to hear some other views on these comparisons to the existing graded examples Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36844 Posts	Posted 11/09/2019 2:10 pm Very little if any wear. There are a few small scratches. I'd say AU-55 on this one. Report this Post to the Staff
stratocaster Valued Member United Kingdom 240 Posts	Posted 11/09/2019 4:25 pm Thank you for all the feedback! this helps a lot! @sel_69l I am still figuring out the differences between the British and Sheldon scales. Is there a good manual on the British system you would recommend? @tdziemia this is super useful info! thank you for all the effort to research previous coins! Indeed they don't look too far off. I think the last one is quite close, with a more appealing Jesus side, but with more worn dies on the St Mark side. Despite the filed rims, the "UNC details" seems the nicest to me, while the "MS-62" is a bit less appealing in spite of the high grade. That being said, it's hard to judge gold from pictures, lighting makes a big difference. Report this Post to the Staff
	Replies: 7 / Views: 1,172

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

All Forums Category: World Coins and Currency Forums Forum: World Coin Grading

The First Dollar, your premier source for bullion and rare coins. See our bullion list on the site and the coin inventory on ebay.

Silver Gold Bull US is the United States leading bullion dealer. We deliver gold coins, gold bars, silver coins, silver bars and precious metals to your door. Order today!

View Last 100 New Topics

View Last 100 Active Topics

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us | Advertise Here | Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum

It took 0.31 seconds to rattle this change.