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 Posted 09/29/2008  08:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have just found a small coin in amongst a bulk lot of foreign coins. It is:
  • Obverse Legend - D & Co. & S Toy Money
  • 1880 (both the obverse and Reverse)
  • Obverse - Queen Victoria
  • Reverse - Six Pence under a crown and surrounded by laurels
  • 13 mm bronze/brass

Is there any on-line information about who the company was, its scarcity/value?

I did see some information on a company named Lauer (?) who made a lot of these, but not necessarily these in particular
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 Posted 10/02/2008  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I do not know a thing about it, but it looks very nicely done for being "toy money". With me being primarily a US collector and the bulk of my darskide material from the 20th century, I am ignorant on the subject so forgive me but how close is that design to a genuine coin?
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 Posted 10/02/2008  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...how close is that design to a genuine coin?

Here's a genuine 1880 sixpence. There were two different designs issued in 1880, the difference primarily being in the hairstyle on the portrait.

The toy money, apart from being the wrong metal (though it may originally have been silvered) is no doubt much smaller than a genuine 6d.
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The toy money, apart from being the wrong metal (though it may originally have been silvered) is no doubt much smaller than a genuine 6d.
Spot on Sap, the coin is the size of a 3d (threepence). It is similar in size and colouring to a Russian 1 Kopek.

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OK, after a bit of googling, I found a few examples of D. & Co. toy coins sold on ebay and elsewhere, but not a sixpence.

While I couldn't find a reference site specifically for these, I did find that there is a catalogue for them - "Toy Coins" by David Rogers, published in 1990. It's probably got all the information known about these kinds of "coins". The Amazon page for this book is less than informative at the moment.
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 Posted 10/02/2008  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap.

I also saw that reference to David Rogers.

A company called Invaluable Services had the following Auction reference: Lot 149 : A Collection Of Fourteen Late Victorian Toy Money Coins, D. & Co. & S , circa 1880; and two Victorian miniature toy spinning tops.

They receive auction details from auction houses all over the world, and we offer subscription services to those who wish to buy at auction or research items auctioned in the past.

Unfortunately they had no information on the company nor the actual lot itself. It also seems that the auction was quite some time ago.

I tried googling Lauer, nurenberg, nurnberg. It seems they made a lot of toy coins, jetons and medals. However, I couldn't link the D. & Co to them.

There are a number of forums on jetons and medals, but apart from a toy coin being found by a metal detector, there was very little known about toy coins. This is surprising as there were quite a variety of toy coins made, and in considerable numbers.

It has been a fascinating few hours of googling. I will probably do a few more before I finally give up and simply put the coin in a box not to be seen again for a decade or so
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 Posted 11/06/2008  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opa..._limit_=50#1

Here is my 'toy money'. Everything I needed to know. Great reference site.
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 Posted 11/10/2008  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting piece, the first that I have seen.
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