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Here's quite a unique pair of 1964 dollars..these coins were struck from the same Specimen die pairing, and I believe they originated in a grouping of specimen strike 1964s..yet they aren't Specimen quality. They have obvious planchet issues, most noticeable in the shoulder areas. So these coins were either struck too weakly, or more likely in my opinion..they were struck to specimen standards but the planchet issues couldn't be destroyed by the strike...so what does that leave us? Prooflikes according to ICCS haha. What I find most interesting about these coins is if they were so obviously sub-par in strike, why weren't they destroyed by the mint to be melted and made into new planchets? These pieces are also absolutely pristine, as far as surface quality goes they could quite possibly reach The 67-68 range.. although ICCS calls them 66. Note how well struck these peices are, with full ultra heavy cameo, undeniably above average details in the laurel leaves, neck, cheek etc for a PL strike, and a completely different type of cameo..most 1964 PL dollars have a more grainy cameo but these coins, like the specimens, have a deep yet smoother cameo appearance...also of note, the reverses are absolutely amazing and of complete SP quality...as well as the full rim strikes these coins have is unmistakable. Also, my apologies for any pictures that appear sideways..I tried my best..they still show the characteristics I am trying to show though  There are two coins..one reverse is shows as they're identical but I posted both obverses to show the difference planchet issues each coin has.     Feel free to call me Will.
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In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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They look for sure like specimen strike, the cameo surface look really smooth, definitely not like the Ms look of the PL ! Are the detail on the thisle, near the steam on the reverse are detailed or just plain ? Also, Did you used your PCGS 1952 sp-66 10c to shoot those beauties or its a new coin ?  Edited by Dollar 1935
11/27/2019 6:20 pm
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Dollar, I'm not sure what your last question there is? Feel free to call me Will.
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Was just a joke ; you used a 1944-1952 sp 10 cents (3152*) slab to get a base to place your ICCS flip, and since your 1950 Norweb is in a OGH slab...
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I agree, looks like a specimen strike with its satin finish...too bad about the marks...and the grade.
Might be worth resubmitting?
I sent in a 1950 quarter that came back as PL-66 (even though ICCS had never certified a 1950 quarter as PL).
I broke it out and resubmitted it a few months later...came back SP-65.
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Outstanding eye and memory Dollar..it actually is a duplicate 1950..the pic of it has been posted in the latest Canadian coin purchases thread if you'd like to see it Feel free to call me Will.
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Actually Johnny I prefer it in the current holders..these coins started their journeys destined to be specimen quality but never made it that far..ICCS actually commented on being split on what to call them..they said they couldn't determine if they were Specimen or not so I assume they took the safest route which was also more accurate in a way. I just find it fun thinking about what these should be called.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Show them to Sandy Campbell at the next Coin Expo or Mississauga show.... in about 15 seconds, Sandy will tell you if they are specimen strikes or not. He has probably handled most of the early Elizabeth specimen strikes at one point or another.
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