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1972-S Eisenhower Is It Common To See Cameo Frosting In The Fields?

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 Posted 12/31/2019  8:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ccobb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
And is that a die crack under the R?
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It does seem odd that is would overflow that much, there may or may not be an Error called "sloppy frosting" I never did the research to confirm or deny it.
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I'm not seeing cameo frosting in the fields . Not sure about the die crack under the R on reverse . I would think it would go through the rim and not show under it . Wait for the experts .
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@T-BOP the third fourth and fifth pictures show the frosting just above the surface of the moon. The third pic frosting above the moon between the wing and the leg. the last two pics far right above the surface of the moon.
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I feel this is normal. Frosting back then was not as precise as it seems to be today. I will need to take a closer look at mine to see how consistent they are (or not).
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ccobb > Your photos do not show any frost on any fields . I believe what your looking at is glare from the light source your using .
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I suspect it may be hazing starting.
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I feel this is normal. Frosting back then was not as precise as it seems to be today.


Precisely, especially since we know that they retreated the dies that stuck these collector-only silver proofs.

I believe that's what you have here. That's why it's so frosty and has a little "overspray" onto the field in the areas you've shown us. I have an Ike that shows this prominently on the moon. It appears that only the moon was retreated on the reverse die that struck this Ike. You can see the frost bleeding out onto the field around the top of the earth.

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I believe the enigma under the R on your coin is a struck-through thread/fiber anomaly, but I can't tell for sure. Is it raised on the coin or incuse? I have an example here.

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Finally, here is an example of a die crack on a 74-S Proof. It starts before the R in LIBERTY and travels down almost to Ike's temple. There's another anomaly close to the rim between the R and T. It also travels over onto the rim. I posted it to the Ike Group for their opinion. Andy thought they were both die cracks. I was leaning toward the smaller, jagged line being a strike-thru, but the more I look at the image the more that jagged line looks raised, which would mean it's a die crack.

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Here's another example of a fiber/thread stike-thru. It runs from the eagle's head and down into the wing. It is incuse (sunken).

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And just for the sake of comparison, here is a shot showing the retreated, super frosted earth and a "no re-treatment" die earth:

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Well with all the previous comments I'll go with Conder101's , Hazing starting as a likely candidate for the frosting you see .
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I am with Darth on this one.



And check this one out. They went crazy polishing the die on the area between the eagle's right wing and right leg. This area should match the jet black appearance of the open fields in this photo, but it has a frosty appearance instead.

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For comparison, a standard, normal reverse:

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And check this one out. They went crazy polishing the die on the area between the eagle's right wing and right leg.
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@Darth Morgan thank you! very helpful!
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