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1797 King George III Two Pence?

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 Posted 02/27/2020  8:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jamesschofield to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've recently come accross this coin and was wondering what the details are. Is it a two pence coin? It weights around 60g.

Why is "J.Hale" stamped into it and what is its significance (if any)?
What quality do you think it is?
Any just any information you have.

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Just a counter-stamp of unknown origin, which renders the coin of little value.



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At 60 grams weight and 40mm diameter, yes, it's a twopence.

The other handy way to tell them apart from a picture, if all you have is a picture, is to look at where the trident is pointing. On the twopence, as on this piece, it's pointing directly at the second "N". On the penny, the trident is pointing away into the space between the second "N" and the "I".

"J. Hale" would probably have been stamped there as an advertisement, by a shop-owner of that name. Defacing coinage with advertisements was illegal then and is still illegal, but people used to do it anyway, especially in the Colonial regions (like Australia) where supplies of replacement coinage were scarce.

It's also possible that Mr. (or Mrs.) Hale was simply stamping their property. Twopence coins were very convenient two-ounce weights - just about the only people who actually liked these twopence coins were shopkeepers, for this reason - and it's possible that Hale wished to ensure that their precious shop-weight was not accidentally given away in change, or if it was, then they would be likely to be able to retrieve it when someone brought it back to them.
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