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1907 IHC Snow 7 Or 11?

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Can anyone help me out here?I am fairly certain it is one of these 2. I do not see any other doubling/repunching, but there is a bit of gunk around the letters.


First, base of the 7
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and here are the date and part of reverse to help. Thanks



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Looking through my Snow attribution guide, I find the overall date position doesn't match the S-7 or S-11, but is closer to the S-12.
Since there's a lot going on for the S-12, it would help to see a closeup of the whole date. Definitely a RPD
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I will get that up later, right now is dinner and a movie with the SO.
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I wrote my previous reply immediatly after you Kurt, but forgort to send it. Here are the numbers of the date. and by the way, if you have not seen "forgeting Sarah Marshall" yet, DON'T. I did not smile once in the hour plus I managed to watch. It does not get a


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It occurred to me you might have wanted a closeup of the whole date.


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Interestingly, I had just looked at this coin last night and thought it was a Snow -7 . I think that is the same as 1907/7/7 which I had written on the flip a long time ago. Kurt, what date position is the definitive one? I am sure glad you are around to help

Jim

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Very nice...this one is better than at first glance; your new photos really help!
Guess what? I looked through the 48 varieties, and I think this might be a discovery coin. I don't see an exact match.
For instance--I think there's a repunching on the 1 both N and S.
Something may be happening with the 9 too--it could be dirt or metal.
And definitely repunching S on the 7--and perhaps N as well, which would support the case with the 1.
I think you should send this one to Rick Snow for attribution--are you in the Fly-In club? I could post the photos at their site first.
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Update--second coin:
Very strong repunching of the 7 S.
I think I see repunching on the 1 and 9 too.
I'll need to mull this one over, and carefully study date position--it's very useful to compare the position of the 1 in dates against the denticles.
As there were as many as 270 obverse dies for 1907, it's quite possible there are new RPDs to be found.
Btw, I just read Rick Snow will attribute any coin for $4 via registered mail.
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I didn't mean to hijack a thread, just thought it might add to the discussion. I
didn't know there was that many dies used~ wow! After I looked at it last night I
had put it away, but I will dig it out and rephoto the whole date. I haven't checked
on that board since you put the 1888/7 on for me, but will.

Jim
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Kurt, here are 2 photos with the light at opposite directions. Maybe will help
to see the repunch.

Jim
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Jim, those new photos really help!
Starting by the date position, everything else matches a Snow-4 1907/1907(s), 1/1(n)
And, judging by the slight repunching visible below the 0, I think this is an EDS.
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If I would send it in, would Rick do anything about the gunk or attribute it with it? I will send it in, I would love to have the first discovered coin of a variety. Which reminds me, I have a few to send to coppercoins as well. And no, I am not a member of the fly in club.
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I don't think Rick Snow would touch the dirt at all. I'm sure he could tell easily if it's a new variety.
I could post a pic to Rick's forum, but he might take long to respond. He focuses a lot on the expensive stuff.
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