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Transnistrian Coin Design Changes

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 Posted 11/10/2008  08:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've got some friends who've just come back from Transnistria, a tiny strip of land that's the last outpost of the Hammer and Sickle. They weren't staying there long and were always travelling in the company of locals, so they never had the opportunity to acquire any Transnistrian money, but one of them found a couple of Transnistrian coins in the street, and gave me one.

I already have a set of first-issue coins from this "country" I bought some years ago (KM# 1 to 5). This one I've just been given looks identical at first glance to the 5 kopek I already have, except for the date, but it's actually a new type.

It's not listed in my 2006 edition Krause, but it is listed on the NumisMaster website as KM# 16. NumisMaster doesn't show any pictures of the new types yet, only giving the somewhat unhelpful description that the national arms have been "modified".

I thought it might be helpful to anyone else who might own or encounter these coins to actually see what these "modifications" are, so here they are, side by side. As you can see, the 2005 (my recent acquisition) has a bit of "roadkill damage", but I don't mind - it's the impression from an authentic Transnistrian sidewalk!

Transnistrian-Coin-Design-Changes

From what I can see, the differences are subtle, but detectable when placed side by side: the fruits and wheat grains are larger and more prominent, the letters PMH on the central ribbon are bolder, and the pattern of sunrays changed from "all even length" to "alternating tall and short". The net effect is to make the design bolder - something these tiny coins really needed.
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 Posted 11/10/2008  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The most noticeable difference between the 2000 and 2005 coins are the 25 and 50 kopek pieces. See http://www.cbpmr.net/?id=12&lang=en (note that the new 5 and 10 kopek coins have the same sizes as the older ones).

The old type (copper/zinc) is not magnetic, the new one (copper/steel) is. From what I have heard (not sure though), both types occur on the coins dated 2005. And apparently both types are accepted ...

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11/10/2008 09:19 am
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 Posted 11/11/2008  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that's interesting! I had no idea this country even existed! Actually according to several sources on the web it actually doesn't exist as far as most countries are concerned, because they don't recognize it, considering it part of Moldavia.
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 Posted 11/11/2008  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure, but that applies to some other countries as well. Guess what is important here is that those coins are not just fantasy products made by dealers who sell them to collectors. The notes and coins actually circulate in the area controlled by the Transnistrian government ...

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 Posted 11/11/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are some major countries which don't exist according to other countries.

Such as Taiwan which is only recognised by 23 other countries, or People's Republic of China, which isn't recognised by the 23 countries that recognise Taiwan.

Official recognition of a country is another way that any one person's OFEC list will differ from somebody else's

As coin collectors you have to decide your own unilateral policy on what makes a country, or indeed a currency/coinage "real"

I have coins from Transdniestra but I did not know they actually circulate. To me that makes it more of a real coinage, but then I believe the Puffins of Lundy circulated on Lundy, so does that make them a real coinage?

Maybe the best compromise is to go by Krause. If they make it into the regular catalogue (Transdniestra, Nagorno-Karabakh etc.) They are real. If they make it into the Unusual World Coins catalogue they aren't.

Incidentally, the Puffin coinage of Lundy used to be in the regular Krause, now it is in the Unusual one.
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I am humbled to admit that I never heard of this ... er ... country.

A little trolling on the Internet brought me to this site: http://www.pridnestrovie.net/ . Fascinating.
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