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Valued Member
Canada
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hello, long time no post. But it is something worthy. I have been doing coin appraisals in my spare time. And have been stumped on a coin. a 1915 Ottawa mint sovereign coin. With George the V on the obverse and the horse and serpent design on the Reverse.. Now he's the catch.. These were not minted in 1915. The coin has not been tooled, nor are there any tells of it being counterfeit. Theres always the possibility but to my eye, I could not detect any. Im just curious if any one knows why these wern't minted in 1915. Were tehy minted, only later to be melted down? What are the chances this one just survived the melting stage. I am very stumped on this and need help. thanks. this is the coin I am referring to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa...t_sovereignsIf you would all flip to pages 152-153 in your charltons' guides ;) |
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Valued Member
 Canada
351 Posts |
upon further research I have found this site. http://www.goldsovereigns.co.uk/fakes.htmlit appears these along with the 1902 and 1925 are commonly counterfeited. I willl have to take another look at it, as I could not spot any signs of it being cast. Still, all opinions are welcome. are there any 1915 known to be genuine? |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, my notes on the subject say - "In 1908 to 1911, 1913, 1914, and 1916 to 1919, gold sovereigns were struck at the Royal Canadian Mint, Ottawa, with a "C" mint mark ..." Have you had a close look at the mintmark ? Peter in Oz |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Yes, the mintmak seemed fine. Everything looked completely of the norm. I will have a more detailed examination when I GO THERE AGAIN. After reading the link I posted I feel confident it is a counterfeit, I find it weird that I couldn't notice anything to suggest that the first time around..
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2830 Posts |
G'day,
while you're at it, check the weight:
It is very difficult to replicate the 7.98 grams of a genuine sov.
Peter
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Valued Member
Canada
351 Posts |
thank you, that will be the plan on the next visit, thanks for posting the weight!
Ill check into that and hopefully get some pictures to show.
thanks Peter.
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Valued Member
Canada
351 Posts |
well, heres pictures of the counterfeit 1915. It weighs 4.01 ounces. feel free to save this image for future reference so you don't get burnt.
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Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3499 Posts |
hmm interesting. That mint mark looks more like an "S" than a "C".
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2830 Posts |
G'day,
also check the diameter
full sov = 22mm
half-sov = 19mm
in 1915, half sovs were minted in S, M, & P.
Peter
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 I see an "S" in the right place for the Sydney mint. According to my catalogue, the 1/2 Sovereign was 19mm and 3.9940gr.--probably within the +/- tolerances of your scale. |
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 Australia
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Yep, it's definitely an "S" mintmark in that pic. Sydney.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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