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DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 07/23/2020 12:01 am Charlton would have you believe that the face of the centennial dollar is essentially the same as the 1954 $1 issue with the addition of the symbol and the references to the centennial top and bottom. Only half true. The green plate is a 1954 $1 plate with the addition of the symbol. The black plate is a modified 1954 $2 plate, check out the lathework and other engraved black portions. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff

walk2dwater Pillar of the Community Canada 2578 Posts	Posted 07/23/2020 4:45 pm Quote: The green plate is a 1954 $1 plate with the addition of the symbol. The black plate is a modified 1954 $2 plate, check out the lathework and other engraved black portions. -Interesting. Where did you find this info? I've just re-examined a couple of examples from that era & I suspect both front & back plates come from a different plate design (because the "ONE" & "UN" are on the OPPOSITE vertical sides). Here's the front of a 1954 modified note: -Now here's the front of a *1967 N/O: Now here's the back of the Modified 1954 One: And here's the back of the 1967 Confederation One: Can definitely see different lathe work on the borders (which seems most dramatic around the numeral Markers "1") Here's the back of a Modified TWO: and here's the back of a Modified FIVE**: (I find the lathe work on the Five border to appear closest to the Commemorative 1867-1967 One). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUc8Kx5wCI4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LeYOYtSAoc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq1DlqkPHhE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PsCjxldIao Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 07/24/2020 7:40 pm @walk2dwater I'm only referring to the face of the note. The back of the centennial note is unique not a modification of another engraving. The black plate of the face of the centennial note is a modification of the 1954 modified $2 plate. Compare the lathework and portrait details. I first noticed this a couple of years ago when I bid on a lot that included 1954 $2 and 1967 $1 notes. It just kinda jumped out at me. I'm kinda surprised that I've never seen it mentioned elsewhere. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 08/15/2020 12:02 am Compare the lathework on the following three notes. Does the centennial note look like it was derived from the modified $1 or $2? "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 08/15/2020 1:53 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Hounddog Bill Pillar of the Community Canada 1222 Posts	Posted 08/15/2020 3:44 pm DBM I can't help you on your question but I find in interesting, hope someone can shed some more light on it. I noticed looking at your notes I can't see a front plate number on the E/M note, may just be the picture but I thought they were supposed to have one. Take a look at the plate number on the two also it looks like 00 if so that's a new one on me I have some plate 1 never seen 00 before, again may be just the picture. Cheers, Bill Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 08/15/2020 4:28 pm The face plate number on the E/M is very faint, at 60X with intense light all I can tell is that it ends in 0. The face plate number of the $2 is 100, it shows up well on my original scan but was lost when I reduced it to 300Kb to post here. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
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