Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Heavy Copper LMC 3.278g

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 4 / Views: 719Next Topic  
Valued Member

United States
232 Posts
 Posted 08/18/2020  4:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Grelko to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been reading on here, that the maximum weight for a copper LMC, would be 3.24g. That's 3.11g +/- 0.13

I calibrated my scale for 50g, 20g, then weighed the coin.

This coin weighs 3.278g and it's even slightly wore down.

I don't think the small amount of verdigris would make that much of a difference. Any ideas?




Heavy-Copper-LMC-3.278g
Heavy-Copper-LMC-3.278g
Heavy-Copper-LMC-3.278g
Heavy-Copper-LMC-3.278g
Heavy-Copper-LMC-3.278g
Bedrock of the Community
merclover's Avatar
United States
10635 Posts
 Posted 08/18/2020  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recommend calibrating your scale using a known weight coin such as a brand new cent (or several of them). As long as in is after 1982, the weight should be 2.5 grams. Weight several to verify the calibration. Then find a cent newish looking cents before 1982, it should weigh 3.11 grams. Again, weigh several similar cents to verify. Try this and get back to us with your new finding.


Valued Member
United States
232 Posts
 Posted 08/18/2020  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grelko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried using 10 of each copper VS zinc cents, randomly from the "year" piles I had sorted out.

Edit - Added one weight I missed and the averages of the groups of 10. I tried to find the ones that looked newer.

2010-2020
---------

2.500
2.501
2.500
2.531
2.500
2.498
2.493
2.548
2.483
2.492

Avg = 2.546

1970-1980
---------

3.075
3.088
3.218
3.080
3.075
3.083
3.133
3.152
3.066
3.098

Avg = 3.107 (3.1068)

I tested with 10 between 1970-1974, since I don't currently have 10 of the 1973 D cents.

3.048
3.081
3.064
3.134
3.100
3.114
3.110
3.081
3.112
3.031

Avg = 3.088 (3.0875)

Afterwards, I tried the "heavy" cent again and it came out to 3.276

Even if the calibration is slightly off, it's still over. From the side it looks a tiny bit thicker at the top, but that's about it.



I also came across a 1980 P dime that was 2.366 instead of 2.268, which is a bit heavy. 2.358 would be the maximum given the +/- 0.09, so that's only 0.008 overweight. This is probably plated, the face seems to come out slightly farther than a regular dime, but the back almost looks acid dipped. I wasn't going to waste peoples time with another topic already, unless they really wanted to see it haha.
Edited by Grelko
08/18/2020 10:44 pm
Bedrock of the Community
merclover's Avatar
United States
10635 Posts
 Posted 08/18/2020  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I tried the "heavy" cent again and it came out to 3.276

Your "heavy" cent weighing 3.276 comes in at 0.166 over the 3.11 "normal" weight. I believe this to be well within mint tolerances. I am certain there are those here who will love to correct me, as most members here are far more expert than I am in these matters.


Bedrock of the Community
Conder101's Avatar
United States
17884 Posts
 Posted 08/19/2020  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The suggestion of "calibrating" your scale using items of variable unknown weights (coins) is probably not a great idea. Calibrating it with the known calibration weights that you have is the proper way to go which was what you did at first.

At 3.276 grams your cent is .036 gm out of tolerance, not "well within mint tolerances". So it is struck on a very slightly overweight planchet. Unfortunately it is not far enough out of tolerance to be worth a premium value. (Verly slightly out of tolerance coins are not that hard to find) Typically an over or underweight coin doesn't start to draw significant interest until it is .3 to .4 grams out of the tolerance range.
Edited by Conder101
08/19/2020 01:10 am
  Previous TopicReplies: 4 / Views: 719Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.2 seconds to rattle this change. Forums