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Doubts Or Concerns About The Authenticity

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 Posted 08/21/2020  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know that I am taking a risk but this is what insurances are for... I must say that I am curious. If really they are at this level with fakes, it is extraordinary. And we can all be worried as collectors. Let's see what happens next!
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 Posted 08/21/2020  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If really they are at this level with fakes, it is extraordinary.


Well, of course they are. And it is nothing new. Would you think this one is ancient?:

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 Posted 08/21/2020  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Using the coin in the post by @DirtyHarry as the top semi-transparent layer, the result is undeniable.
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In the offset image the two coins are obviously not matched up, but moving the top layer to the set position they are a perfect match.
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 Posted 08/21/2020  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Novicius- I'm taking notes on your fine detective work. Nicely done!
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 Posted 08/21/2020  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nicely done, Jim. I have not doubted they are from the same die. But the real issue, I believe, is whether the die is ancient or, as in the case of the one I posted (an electrotype) more modern. I agree that FV speaks wisdom.
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 Posted 08/21/2020  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pehaps, but if « wisdom «  means the refusal to take any risk, wisdom is not very wise. What about intellectual curiosity, passion and learning ? And insurances ? »
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 Posted 08/21/2020  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm taking notes on your fine detective work. Nicely done!

Thanks, but as Bob says, it doesn't help with whether the dies are ancient or not.

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I agree that FV speaks wisdom.

Yes indeed Bob, there is no argument there.

It looks like you have to go with your gut feeling with this one @ancient67.
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 Posted 08/21/2020  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the thing about running risks is that it may turn out well on some particular occasion, but it will turn out badly on the long run

Jokes aside, please always keep in mind that there are some really high quality struck counterfeit coins out there. Many of them are amazing, and I am afraid many of them I will never be able to recognize as such.

Here seller reputation and experience on ancient coins has vital importance.
As I said, I have no idea who the seller is so I refuse to judge in that respect, but Rufus words are indeed wise. And he speaks from his extensive experience on the subject.

Please I don´t pretend to give you advice or anything, but consider contacting the seller, maybe asking for background, coin provenance, maybe arranging the possibility of receiving more information about the item, looking at it personally if possible, etc.

As I said, I wish you the best with this transaction.
We are talking about an important coin and every precaution you may take is welcome.
(Even if that means letting this one pass and saving the money for another one)

Best.
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