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1936 Gettysburg For Your Consideration

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Commens are difficult to grade. I would like to hear what the experts here would grade this Gettysburg. This has always been one of if not my favorite classic commemorative.


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 Posted 08/31/2020  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks virtually flawless in these pics. I'll say MS-67.
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Very nice coin! Thanks for sharing!

My eyes see a few too many marks on the face and hat of the Union soldier on the obverse to grade it beyond an MS-66 (maybe even MS-65 if the grader is very picky). There are also a few lines on the reverse that merit closer inspection, but I can't do it from a photograph with the lighting used.

The Gettysburg is one of the coins in the classic commemorative series that can often be found nice/very nice - I think you've found one!



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Not getting a feel for the coin, because of the lighting
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...because of the lighting


Because of a similar theme in this thread I'd like to throw in my own Gettysburg example that I took with a USB camera way back in 2013 when Apple's iPhone 4S boasted a mere 8 megapixels.

At that time I truly did not see much difference between my now-obsolete USB and the aforementioned iPhone. I tried to accentuate the minute dings by eliminating the diffuse lighting and lowering the incident angle of lighting source.

My older thread below is only for reference but I'd like the viewers to make any references to it in this particular thread when giving grading opinions on my commem. I'd like to have a different group of opinions, anyway, compared to those expressed back in 2013.

http://goccf.com/t/144889&SearchTerms=gettysburg

Ultimately, my purpose is not to steal this thread but to address the lighting issue for these type of high end Ag coins. By soliciting new grading opinions on either coin new courses of action, if worthwhile, could serve to vary psuman08's process in pursuit of the best possible realistic portrayal of his/her patina.
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I'm sorry to say it, but I don't think either of your lighting options is conducive to accurate grading. The second set of images is particularly dark (at least to my eyes) and gives the coin a dull appearance. I'm hesitant to assign it any grade beyond "Uncirculated."

What kind of brilliance / luster does the coin have? Does it cartwheel over the surfaces when the coin is rotated in hand?

Gettysburg coins can come very nice, but I can't tell where your example falls on the spectrum.


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...kind of brilliance / luster does the coin have?


Just to streamline the reading of this thread, I'll post my two new retakes as of 9/23/20 (with an iPhone 6S).

Maybe a more accurate grade can now materialize:

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 Posted 09/24/2020  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add freddo30 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not too good at grading photos. What I do see appears cleaned with high point friction on the cheeks and marks in the focal shield areas.Either the photo is too bright or the coin has been dipped possibly more than once. Great design in any grade although I've always thought the visages inaccurate ; those guys are far older than the average combatant of that war.
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...Does it cartwheel over the surfaces when the coin is rotated in hand?


Yes.

Also, I'd hoped that my new shots would show off the brilliance and luster.

Any new guesses on a modified numeric grade for my example compared to 2013's shots?
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Well, I finally got around to sending this into a TPG.

Here are the final results with excellent lighting applied:

[/url]https://www.PCGS.com/cert/45160220[/url]


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This is the type of coin that's hard to get rid of just because of its uniqueness of design and what it all really stands for: 50k dead In pursuit of their desired utopias.


https://www.thoughtco.com/significa...burg-1773738


Honest Abe could have even been captured had the results been different.
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To provide a point of reference, here's a True View of my MS66 w/CAC:


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.my MS66 w/CAC


What do you think kept it from 67?
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Lack of toning. There's no doubt that at some point it had been dipped, but apparently it was done gently enough that CAC would still apply its sticker.

My preference for eye appeal, especially 20th century silver, is highly lustrous blast white with no or little toning. Every coin of mine eligible for a CAC has one, despite the fact these are not "original".

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