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I have an 1858 indian head that I think may be a G-4 grade. would like to know if anyone agrees and what it may be worth. *** Edited by Staff to remove YELLING. All capital letters is the internet version of yelling. Please do not do it in titles or posts. ***  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks like a heavily damaged 1859 Indian Head cent to me. The 8 and 9 digits can be deceiving on damaged and well worn coins. |
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Red it is definitely an "8" I'm having trouble getting a good resolution photo.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sure looks like an 8, but I'd like to see a higher-res close-up as well.
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looks like a 8 to me---makes it a pattern--the coin you have is the 6 leaves reverse--rarer than the 5 leaves reverse which is the one I have--nice coin--here are some pics of the one that I have---as far as value it is whatever someone is willing to pay--i paid 200$ for my coin--   Edited by mikev50
09/02/2020 7:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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the last '8' has a weird looking rotated alignment
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I did some more investigating....Here is what I found. 1.) The Judd-208 patterns from 1858 (transitional patterns) have a "closed 5", in addition to the "5" having a more pronounced curve coming back inside the loop. See image below compared to 1859 example. This is seen on the pictures posted by mivev50. 1858 Judd-208 example  1859 example  2.) Original post coin has a pointed bust. That would make this a Judd-208c or Judd-208d variety. The denticles on the original post coin do not match up with either one. There might be a possibility that there is another die pair involved, but with 10 examples known of each, I would think that is unlikely. I stand by my assessment of this as an 1859 Indian Head cent that has damage to make it look closer to a 1858. |
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mikey50 - Great "real deal" example, thanks. Comparisons with the OP's blurry date pic are difficult, but after lots of back-and-forths, I don't see a match with the "5" digit with the dentils below - check it out.
We need a sharp close-up of the date on the OP's coin to assess potential circulation damage.
Edited by Coinfrog
09/02/2020 8:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Lastly, on 1858 Judd 208 examples, the date was punched in a very flat straight line....1859s were not. Its not clear with the OP coin, but it does not appear to be flat.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Good input. Nail in the coffin?
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i kinda jump the gun--leaning towards 1859 now--redraider hit it on the head--
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Posted 09/02/2020 6:03 pm
