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Interesting 1979 1c Pre-Mint Damage

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This one is quite fascinating. Either the rolling strip itself, or the blank was cut with snips and a small 'pie' of metal removed (possible for testing?). This damaged blank was put through the upset mill, as there is a small Blakesley Effect (best seen on reverse), then struck. The rims on both sides dovetail nicely. Weight is 3.01 g. Surprising that this coin circulated a bit as well.


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Just to be sure, I have solicited the opinion of a few error experts who have seen corner clips and other sample cuts made in US coin strips/blanks. I'll share what they have to say when I hear.
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 Posted 11/19/2020  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
Who'd have known the initialism PMD had another meaning.
I could imagine unintentional damage to the strip or blank.
But testing?
Why destroy a planchet and then strike it?
What are the odds it's as a result of playtime at the mint?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Interesting for sure. Let us know what you find out!
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im not an expert but having knowledge of how metals flow during a stamping precess I would agree this has the look of a genuine error,
although if I found this in a roll I would have chucked it, the thought of this being and error wouldnt even have entered my mind whis makes this an amazing find! good eye SPP!!
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Interesting, I have had a similar 1974 penny that I pulled from roll hunting. It is a little bit rougher but definitely looks like it was snipped or sheared somehow. Also see what I think is a small Blakesley Effect.


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What is the cause of this 'Blakesley Effect'? Haven't heard of that before...
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What is the cause of this 'Blakesley Effect'? Haven't heard of that before..

it is caused from not having enough material to fill the die when coin is squished into the coins design
picture a coin shaped piece of Plasticine but its missing a chunk of the edge now squish it between 2 coins but all the raised features are the opposite incuse (like the die would be)
as you squish it it flows through the valleys of the design untill you run out of material it will then taper off and not be able to be pushed into the design
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Mike Diamond said this about my coin (from an error forum):


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"This is a planchet flaw, but it's not pre-strike damage. This is a fissure that opened up in the coin metal strip during rolling. The facing beveled edges are characteristic of such fissures. As such, these errors should be underweight. The bevel presumably emerges as tensile stresses pull the metal apart."
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 Posted 11/26/2020  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, mine weighs in at 2.94. It looks similar, but yet different.
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