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Binder Full Of Older Foreign Coins

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 Posted 12/11/2008  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let me chime in to echo what's been said about the French coins:

the 1949 5 franc is 3.5grams of aluminum. Not a great year or variety as far as value is concerned, but a nice looking coin without too much damage on the obverse device--that's where you'd first look for condition, the cheeks and hair. Don't write off these aluminum coins too fast though-- in the 5ff from the postwar, there are open-nine varieties as well as "B" and "C" mintmarks where the values skyrocket!

the 1873 5 franc is absolutely silver, and I like these coins because the obverse device is a design by Augustin Dupre, who designed the first French francs way back during the French Revolution. Your coin was made shortly after the 3rd Republic was established; 27 million of these .7+ ounce quantities of silver were minted that year so it's not a "big money" coin. But who cares about that-- it's a lovely crown with mighty Hercules flanked by Justice and Liberty, and it doesn't hurt to keep good company like that around! javascript:insertsmilie('')

Thanks for postin' pics, keep it up we love seein' 'em!
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 Posted 12/11/2008  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to reiterate as two dates are being said. The French 5 Francs is a 1873A. The most common year and mint unfortunately.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ack! Sorry, I misread.

1873A Mintage 27,077,000 F:10.00 VF:12.00 XF:16.00 UNC:40.00
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 Posted 12/11/2008  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely right LeeBreeze, thanks for reiterating that. My book gives that year the highest mintage by far over any other year in the type, and you'd need an xf before holding any value above bullion. (Which is why folks like me (us?) hope silver doesn't stay low forever...

Even the 1874, '75, '76, '77 A mintmarks are common, despite much lower mintages. The good side of the low values on the low grades is that the high grades are actually affordable, and MSes are relatively available. Can't say that about much of the 19th c. French coinage!
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice looking coins collection.
Keep the pics coming!
I find foreign coins just as satisfying to collect as US. and they are much cheaper
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few more (feel free to holler again if I miss-attribute)

1812 Russia 2 Kopeks
I think it's this one (multiple listed in Krause).. please correct me if I'm wrong
C# 118.4 2 Kopeks 1810-1814 Copper
Obv: Crowned double imperial eagle, initials and date below Rev: Crown above value within wreath

Government Empire
Ruler Alexander I
Coinage Type Standard Coinage
Composition Copper

1812#1048;#1052;#1055;#1057; No mintage listed VG:3.50 F:9.00 VF:20.00 XF:40.00
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1856 Great Britain Shilling
KM# 734.1 Shilling 1838-1863 0.925 Silver 0.1682 oz. ASW
Obv: High relief Rev: Crown above denomination within wreath

Ruler Victoria
Coinage Type Pre-decimal Coinage
Composition Silver
Fineness 0.925
Weight 5.6552 g 0.1682 oz ASW
Description Obverse High relief
Description Reverse Crown above denomination within wreath
Legend Obverse VICTORIA DEI GRATIA BRITANNIAR: REG: F: D:
Notes: Without die number.

1856 Mintage 3,168,000 F:12.00 VF:30.00 XF:100.00 UNC:250.00
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1934 New Zealand Half Crown
KM# 5 1/2 Crown 1933-1935 0.5 Silver 0.2273 oz. ASW
Obv: Crowned bust left Rev: Crowned shield within ornamental design

Ruler George V
Coinage Type Pound Sterling Coinage
Composition Silver
Fineness 0.5
Weight 14.14 g 0.2273 oz ASW
Diameter 32 mm
Designer Obverse Percy Metcalfe
Designer Reverse G.E. Kruger-Gray

1934 Mintage 2,720,000 F:3.00 VF:20.00 XF:45.00 UNC:200.00 BU:350.00
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1909 Austria 20 Heller
KM# 2803 20 Heller 1892-1914 Nickel
Obv: Crowned imperial double eagle Rev: Value above date at center of ornate shield

Government Empire
Ruler Franz Joseph I
Coinage Type Reform Coinage (100 Heller = 1 Corona)
Composition Nickel
Diameter 21 mm

1909 Mintage 7,592,000 F:3.00 VF:6.00 XF:12.00 UNC:20.00
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1938 Germany-Third Reich 5 Reichspfennig
KM# 91 5 Reichspfennig 1936-1939 Aluminum-Bronze
Obv: Eagle above swastika within wreath Rev: Denomination, oak leaves below

Composition Aluminum-Bronze
Weight 2.53 g

1938A Mintage 54,012,000 F:0.50 VF:2.50 XF:4.00 UNC:9.00 BU:12.50
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Keep in mind, these are all from Krause, and they've been known to be off on their pricing (and outdated as well), plus they don't usually price any varieties. So take the details of the coins and check them on Heritage Auctions site and others to see what they're really going for. Experts here on the particular coins will pipe in with variety or other info, I'm sure. (I like ALL coins but am an expert on none of them!)

But they're awesome coins, and there's a big market right here, let alone anywhere else! Keep 'em coming!
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the info!!

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 Posted 12/11/2008  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1952 Honduras
KM# 73 20 Centavos 1931-1958 0.9 Silver 0.0723 oz. ASW
Obv: National arms Rev: Chief Lempira left within circle

Government Republic
Coinage Type Reform Coinage
Mint Philadelphia
Composition Silver
Fineness 0.9
Weight 2.5 g 0.0723 oz ASW
Diameter 18 mm

1952 Mintage 2,500,000 F:BV VF:1.25 XF:2.50 UNC:7.00
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1968 Mexico 25 pesos
KM# 479.1 25 Pesos 1968 0.72 Silver 0.5208 oz. ASW
Obv: National arms, eagle left Rev: Olympic rings below dancing native left, numeral design in background
Type I, Rings aligned

Composition Silver
Fineness 0.72
Weight 22.5 g 0.5208 oz ASW
Diameter 38 mm
Designer Lorenzo Rafael

1968 Mintage 27,182,000 XF:BV UNC:7.50 BU:8.00
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1923 France 50 centimes
KM# 884 50 Centimes 1921-1929 Aluminum-Bronze
Obv: Denomination within circle Rev: Mercury seated left, caduceus at left, shield on right, date below

Composition Aluminum-Bronze
Weight 2 g
Diameter 18 mm

1923 Mintage 119,584,000 F:0.15 VF:0.25 XF:0.75 UNC:2.50
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1917 German Emergency Coinage (Notgeld)
I found 2 for 1917, one zinc and one iron. Yours looks like iron but here's the info for both:

I think the EMS/U, LAMB, & FUNCK #'s along with these are designations like KM#'s or VAMs.
NEUWEID a. Rh. State: Rhineland square iron EMS/U: E2-2 LAMB: L367.2 FUNCK: F379.2
NEUWEID a. Rh. State: Rhineland square zinc EMS/U: E2-1 LAMB: L367.1 FUNCK: F379.1

Good luck with this one.. I think Sap knows a lot about these, maybe he'll pop his head in here and give more detail. You could also search on notgeld neuweid and come up with some info
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 Posted 12/11/2008  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MrRick- That New Zealand half crown is very nice! And the WWI-era square 10 Pfennig coin is really interesting. All in all that binder is proving to be a rather nice collection.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, this thread is really getting to me. Old binders of coins like this are quite possibly what I live for finding. Last year I bought a full binder of coins at my local coin shop and found innumerable goodies in it. You have such a wonderful collection going and I am loving the pictures, thank you!

Just a small thing- I know that I prefer to call them World coins rather than Foreign. After all, US currency is still foreign to the larger part of the world and at least half of our Forum.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes but then to the rest of us US coins are "world coins" as much as they are "foreign". Either way we know what you mean
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Love that 2 kopek. I'd guess a price of $25 would be fair market.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 12/11/2008  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Neuwied am Rhein square 1917 coin is part of the Kriegs/Notgeld group. "Not" refers to emergency in German, and "geld" is money, so if you see that word don't think of it as 'not something' but as emergency or in this case "kriegsgeld," i.e. "war money." I don't have the specialized catalog, so maybe someone will tell us more about it. I have never seen one from Neuwied am Rhein but that doesn't mean it is rare.
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