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 Posted 12/15/2008  11:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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...and the obverse's shape doesn't match the reverse's.... or is it just an angle problem?
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 Posted 12/16/2008  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was probably soldered onto something. The grey stuff is the solder, and the excessive wear on the obverse shows that whatever it was soldered onto saw a lot of use.
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The symmetrical blotch suggests something was attached--a pin or clasp?
I think the coin is too worn to have collector value and wouldn't even get full melt.
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 Posted 12/16/2008  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dhughesz28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
why would it not get full melt?, besides the fact its only 90% gold. Based on the price of gold right now, this is a good deal. If I did my calculation right, the gold alone is worth $101.66.
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I think what he means it that a considerable amount of the coin has worn away, so it would not weigh the same as mint state coin. Restated, it would get full melt for its current actual weight, but not its mint state weight.
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Yep, looks like it was soldered to a pin or something and worn for many years, wearing down the obverse surface. Worth nothing more than gold value at this point and the opening bid is right about the actual gold value.
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I don't think there was anything ever soldered to that coin. Don't know why anyone would solder something to the front. Usually soldered things like a pin would be on the rear.
I'd be leary about that coin. Those marks might well be a discoloration due to the actual coin not being real. Possibly a faked, counterfeit, etc that has been coated, dipped or plated and some of that covering is coming off.
Regardless of what or why, I'd like to examine that one close up.
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Well, I personally think that it's only worth maybe 1-2% over the spot price because


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considerable amount of the coin has worn away


But, I just got another one! And you guys are going to help me grade it!!
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Don't know why anyone would solder something to the front. Usually soldered things like a pin would be on the rear

Carl, did you even look at the coin in question? It is not plating worn off as it is plainly evident that the solder even filled in some of the incuse devices and the solder IS on the reverse...


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