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Hi wise ones-- Please, anyone with ninja-level specialized knowledge know the monogram pictured? It is on the reverse of a Nabataean bronze coin, right side (on the left is a letter het). Most of the back's space shows the typical crossed cornucopias tied w/ribbon. This odd mark to the left looks like the Eiffel Tower grew a wing and wants a hug.  Never seen this particular cypher before. Any informed guesses?  |
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Moderator
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Please post a picture of the coin.
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New Member
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Sure. It's the mark I'm interested in.  |
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That's an odd looking reverse for a Nabataean coin, looks at little thick also. Is there any design on the obverse?
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New Member
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part of a portrait and rimline are present, but it is SO broadstruck  |
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New Member
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I know, the double cornucopia is usually an emblem on Judean coins, but Nabataeans used it too
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Palouche
02/15/2021 5:11 pm
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Thank you. Yes, knew about the het/h, but as I've said all along, the other mark is the puzzle. So, "Shin , Lam" --what is Shin Lam? Is it maybe the monogram Aretas (IV)? Somebody up here will know.
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Pillar of the Community
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From what I can make out the Shin Lam monogram uses 2 letters from Syllaeus's name. Edit....Better script chart from Omniglot..  Edited by Palouche
02/15/2021 7:23 pm
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And now for one of the most jargon-heavy questions I've ever asked. So, Syllaeus and Aretas IV co-ruled Nabataea for a few rivalous years before Aretas IV won out. They had some ruling-together coins. Is it that the shin + lam stands for Syllaeus? Aretas IV in Aramaic was called #7716;#257;ritat; does the #7716;#275;th/het stand for him?
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm no expert in this field but the OP doesn't seem to be the more common Shin/Het across fields type which is usually attributed to obverse portrait of Obodas III. The left monogram certainly seems to be 2 letters Shin/Lam which is attributed to an obverse portrait of Aretas although from the photo I can't make out if there is a Het in front of the portrait? Maybe in hand you can?... Here's the quote from the link I provided which I'm sure you've read and should give you at least a pointer as to researching the OP coin.....Good luck and let us know how you get on....Paul Quote:
Quote from another example sold by CNG :
The joint rule of the ambitious Nabataean minister Syllaeus and his youthful and eventual successor Aretas IV produced a power struggle which lasted into their fourth year, corresponding to 6 BC. Coinage is thought to have been produced more neutrally at first, with the portrait of Obodas III, their predecessor, placed on many of the issues. Towards the end of the joint rule, this iconography was abandoned in favor of the portrait of Aretas himself, foreshadowing his eventual rise as the sole ruler and king of Nabataea. As this coin features the head of Aretas, it can most likely be dated to the later part of the joint rule |
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Yikes, I see my question above got garbled with code-junk when the forum-bot saw lettering with some diacritics. I'm therefore resending the question with no diacritics on 'Haritat' and 'heth.':
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And now for one of the most jargon-heavy questions I've ever asked. So, Syllaeus and Aretas IV co-ruled Nabataea for a few rivalous years before Aretas IV won out. They had some ruling-together coins. Is it that the shin + lam stands for Syllaeus? Aretas IV in Aramaic was called Haritat; does the heth/het stand for him?
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