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 Posted 12/29/2008  6:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add T J to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
first let me start with some background facts.I've inherited my fathers coins-Whitman folders with Indian Head cents & lincoln cents,also a couple of folders with buffalo & Jefferson nickles.
so far I haven't found any that are valuable (money wise that is-but since they came from my dad they are priceless to me).most are in vg to fine condition.
i want to start with the cents first.i have searched some past topics and know most are against cleaning but I also read a quick dip in acetone wouldn't hurt too much.most of the cents are just dirty/grungy but some have verdigris.
so now the question what is the difference between acetone,xylene,&verdi-gone?and when and for what do you use each?
any help/advice would be appreciated.
TJ
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 Posted 12/29/2008  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add idonotnow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't realy know the difference.
cleaning will not make them more valuable,in some cases it may lower it.
I wouldn't clean.
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 Posted 12/30/2008  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The chemicals mentioned, Xylene and Acetone will not react with metals if they are pure without additives, such as in fingernail polish.

Verdi-gone will dissolve verdigris and generally leave non-affected patina alone. You need to follow directions provided with the product. The product only works on the copper compounds, not carbon spots or silver tarnish.

1. Although acetone and xylene will not dissolve metals, if there is PVC green gunk or even black decayed organic material such as oils, etc., they will tend to be removed Exposing what is beneath which may be off colored and toned differently. Also some "darkeners" use a waxy colored coating which makes the cent look dark. Acetone, Xylenes remove these waxy materials leaving possibly ugly coins beneath. This is why some swear that acetone or such can damage the coin. These chemicals Can not be safely reused as they may carry dissolved material that might attach to the second coin. Also, proofs will appear to have streaks unless good acetone rinse procedure is used.

2. There are several Verdi-gone threads. It works as advertised, but you have to have experience to distinguish verdigris from non verdigris. It may take a lot of experimenting before you use it on any but low grade coins. Experiment a lot first!

Always imagine what might be beneath the corrosion or PVC or whatever, there may be little , or pits deep enough to almost flake off the surface. A couple of rolls of circulated cents whould give plenty to practice on.

Jim
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 Posted 12/30/2008  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For one thing if you described folders, not albums, you should get rid of those first. Acquire actual albums where you can see both sides of a coin. The rear of the slots in folders is full of glue. Next I would suggest not cleaning those coins with anything but possibly distilled water. If your not familiar with some chemicals, such as Acetone, you could end up starting a fire, explosion, skin burns, loss of eyesight, etc. Also, if as you say those coins are nothing special for value, then too the purchase of chemicals to clean them would be a waste money wise. Then too after the cleaning you would now have dangerous chemicals laying around just waiting for something to go wrong.
As a general rule if those coins are not all dirty, gummy or such, let them alone. If you ever watch the Antique Road Show on TV you would constantly hear about not cleaning old things. An example is the mummy's at the museum. No one cleans them you know.
As I said the best thing is to just put the ones you have in a album type book. Those are made by many companies such as Whitman, Dansco, Littleton, etc.
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 Posted 12/30/2008  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the help/advice I appreciate it.
i have already ordered dansco albums for the indian head,lincoln,and the buffalo's.that is what brought about my question.alot of the cents are pretty cruddy that made me consider cleaning them before putting them in the album.
again thanks.
TJ
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 Posted 12/31/2008  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you tried boraxo and a wire brush?[/humor]
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 Posted 12/31/2008  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T J to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Parklane64,
do you think I would need boraxo if I put the wire brush on a DeWalt angle grinder?
TJ
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