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Help Classifying William III Exeter Sixpence 1696

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 Posted 05/06/2021  10:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, I've recently acquired a rather drab William III 1696 sixpence, mintmarked E for Exeter.

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Now, Spink lists a dozen or more varieties for this coin, and isn't entirely clear about telling them apart. The condition of this coin isn't helping much either. But, as near as I can tell, this is a "third bust, early harp, large crowns on shields" type (Spink number 3537A), which is a scarcer variety.

AM I ont he right track here, or missing somethign obvious? Any further hints or opinions welcomed.
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Not really anything I have looked at that closely before, but I think I would put it down as First Bust, not third. The proximity of the forelock to the numeral III and the lack of a tight knot in the hair-tie at the back of the head looks more first bust than third to me. But as you say, the condition does not help!
This would make it S3523, which is relatively common.
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I was thinking the same Paddy but, looking again, I note the continuous curve to the back of the head which is indicative of the third, while the first has an obvious angled shape. The toppersmost of King Billy's bouffant also resembles the third variety but, to be honest, condition is so poor, I'd not want to be quoted one way or the other.
However, definitely early harp, wide crowns.
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I'd say first bust because the wreath (if that's what it's called.. I've always called it that) sits almost level with the top bun, and the third bust ribbon ties are thinner and splay more.
overlaid and 'cheese-sliced' on a first bust. A little perspective correction, but less than a 2 degree shift.
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Thanks everyone for their input. I'd go with consensus and label it first bust, then.
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