Possible Counterfeit/Fake Of Probus Ric 186 Mpr 330

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just_me_paddy New Member Poland 34 Posts	Posted 05/27/2021 11:11 am Hello, As in title. It's a possible casted fake of Probus' antoniniani. Look on surface - casted and then painted. Anyway - nice quality. https://drive.google.com/drive/fold...?usp=sharing Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 05/27/2021 1:59 pm The coin looks fine to me. Report this Post to the Staff
just_me_paddy New Member Poland 34 Posts	Posted 05/27/2021 2:23 pm Tip of spear is blured and touches the letters. Surface is quite suspicious. Moreover I couldn't find any examples in the web which were struck from the same dies. Best Regards Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2099 Posts	Posted 05/28/2021 05:04 am This is such a common issue that I would be more surprised if you did find examples from the same dies. If there were several from the same dies, which also shared the same wear pattern and shape then we could easily conclude it to be a cast. At the moment I am edging towards a corroded and repatinated original. But I will now keep my eyes open for a match to prove that conclusion incorrect. Report this Post to the Staff
just_me_paddy New Member Poland 34 Posts	Posted 05/28/2021 07:28 am I was very surprised and dissapointed after I opened the envelope. Coin on the pictures seemed fine to me. I found 2 pieces with similiar break letters from titulature. Unfortunately, dies are not the same. https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=4544 https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...=lot&sid=354 Seller says that he bought it from old collection in UK. Let's suppose he don't lie, maybe the coin is a casted replica from XIX century? Best Regards Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 05/28/2021 09:02 am Style (especially in the lettering style), and fabric leave me with suspicious doubts. The texture of the surfaces remind me of pressure die casting, similar to zinc alloy diecast toy cars. Very constant thickness is not indicative of ancient manufacture. I agree that it is possible that the coins have had their appearance treated to make them appear as genuine. As far a s provenance is concerned, seller has said where they came from, but I would like independent proof of that, not just the seller's say so. Unfortunately, this sort of independent proof is often not available, even with genuine coins, for many different sorts of reasons. Although I cannot completely dismiss them as fake, my motivation would be not to buy. There are lots of other nice Probus coins are out there for your consideration, anyway. Edited by sel_69l 05/28/2021 09:10 am Report this Post to the Staff
just_me_paddy New Member Poland 34 Posts	Posted 05/28/2021 4:12 pm "Provenane" of seller don't persuades me. I consider that coin as a fake, and I will return it. Such a pity, because shippings cost almost full price of genuine coin of this type. Report this Post to the Staff
just_me_paddy New Member Poland 34 Posts	Posted 05/29/2021 11:11 am It's me again! I spotted another casted fake on ma-shops (VICTORIA AVG): https://www.ma-shops.com/loebbers/i...id=160729234 Report this Post to the Staff
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Possible Fake Of Probus Ric 186 Mpr 330