When Will The US Mint Morgan/Peace Dollar Presales Resume?

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machine20 Pillar of the Community United States 1272 Posts	Posted 05/30/2021 6:13 pm Poll Question Received some interesting news last week that the US mint is going to "fix" its website, delaying the presale of the final 3 morgans and peace. When do you think the presales will resume? Poll Choices June or July August or September October - December 2022 or later never Report this Post to the Staff

jbuck Moderator United States 187446 Posts	Posted 05/31/2021 2:07 pm "August or September" Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Corbe Valued Member United States 292 Posts	Posted 06/01/2021 04:33 am If they can't do something in time, I would guess they would just relist the remaining 4 all on separate days at least one would hope. Report this Post to the Staff
BamaBlue Pillar of the Community United States 624 Posts	Posted 06/01/2021 08:03 am Wow... I woke up this morning and went to the Mint site. I didn't see any notice about the delay of the Morgan's release. When it wasn't in the queue for release, I knew something happened. I'm glad that they recognized the problem and will 'fix' it, but what happened and how will they fix it? Report this Post to the Staff
captaincoffee Pillar of the Community United States 600 Posts	Posted 06/02/2021 09:47 am I don't think it will be too long, because I don't think they will make any substantive changes. Report this Post to the Staff
BamaBlue Pillar of the Community United States 624 Posts	Posted 06/02/2021 11:38 am Quote: I don't think it will be too long, because I don't think they will make any substantive changes. I suppose it depends on which story you believe... is the delay because of a true silver shortage, or a desire by the Mint to broaden accessibility and availability to collectors? Report this Post to the Staff
BamaBlue Pillar of the Community United States 624 Posts	Posted 06/02/2021 11:50 am I just saw this in another post... looks like the Mint has clarified their position on the 'global shortage of silver', which sounded like breaking news. Now it sounds like there's some two-stepping; but I'm willing to take the criticism for being a skeptic. Quote: In a message released Friday, May 28, we [the Mint] made reference to a global shortage of silver. In more precise terms, the silver shortage being experienced by the United States Mint pertains only to the supply of silver blanks among suppliers to the U.S. Mint. Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4587 Posts	Posted 06/02/2021 7:58 pm The silver shortage is bunk. They were doing pre-sales for October release. It begins to look like the Mint is actually trying to fix its website problems. Instead of Joes Garage and Hosting service, the front site is now hosted at Amazon and they have Cloudflare (regardless of what you think of them) in front of the web store. HOWEVER, testing a web site for scaling is not an easy project. You first need to define the shopping journey. Since they are tuning a very specific problem, that's easier than it might be for a generalized eCommerce effort. Then you need to define your goals - i.e. 100,000 users attempting to purchase item X in 5 minutes, with only 1% being refused due to site problems. Then you create scripts in one of a handful of tools that simulate web users. Execute the scripts. If you reach your goals, you are done. If not, you analyze the site information, make the tuning changes, and execute again. You may need to push static content (like images) to a content delivery network (CDN) - keeps traffic off your network links and reduces the load on your servers. You may need to scale horizontally - bigger server. Or vertically - more servers. You might need to do a variety of tunings of your database. Even change platforms - switch to a lighter-weight web server program. Or all of the above. This is typically a project lasting several months. Or you can do nothing, as has been suggested above and hope fewer people show up to the party. Which is my bet. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
Big-Kingdom Pillar of the Community United States 1667 Posts	Posted 06/03/2021 06:36 am Considering they haven't suspended all website sales, I say it's a lie to cover for a failed attempt at a presale that they don't want to cascade with the other presales they had scheduled. The website worked like that for the last two year with no "fixes" so this isn't the problem and the mint has the blanks for the production mintage secured already so it's not silver or material. That leave's just a problem with them and a 4 month wait and credit card orders being cancelled by the card companies as being the "problem" in reality. The mint doesn't care if the website is difficult or the item sells out in 20 minutes before, so why care now? They will release them, just close to October so cards won't foul so much. They can't put holds of $850 for 4 months on thousands of cards and whoever thought they could at the mint needs to be fired. You can put an authorization hold on funds from 1-30 days, not 120 days. That's when the mint letters went out and they came to the realization they messed up. When they went to set hold's and saw they couldn't for that long. That's the real problem they are trying to cover for... Edited by Big-Kingdom 06/03/2021 06:42 am Report this Post to the Staff
Singer Valued Member United States 309 Posts	Posted 06/03/2021 07:50 am Quote: They will release them, just close to October so cards won't foul so much. They can't put holds of $850 for 4 months on thousands of cards and whoever thought they could at the mint needs to be fired. You can put an authorization hold on funds from 1-30 days, not 120 days. That's when the mint letters went out and they came to the realization they messed up. When they went to set hold's and saw they couldn't for that long. That's the real problem they are trying to cover for... "The coverup is worse than the crime" almost every time. Admit the mistake and ask forgiveness. The BS excuse only makes it worse. Report this Post to the Staff
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