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Spanish Countermarked Cob - 8 Maravedis?

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 Posted 06/14/2021  8:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add petterkr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one is interesting. I think it might be a Philip III 8 Maravedis countermarked by Philip IV, 1641? 8.18 grams. Any thoughts?

Spanish-Countermarked-Cob---8-Maravedis?
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 Posted 06/15/2021  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would be interested to learn about the countermark.
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 Posted 06/15/2021  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not my area, but it looks like you got it! COuntermark fits exactly the description in Numista: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7515.html

The host coin is a bit heavier than expected, but maybe there was a broad range for this type?
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 Posted 06/17/2021  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add txabs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On 1641, Spain was on a big crysis. There was the Franco-Spanish war (1635-1659), the Portuguese Restoration war (1640-1668) and the Guerra dels Segadors (1640-1659) on Catalonia.

This wars leaded to a difficult monetary situation, so Felipe IV decided to countermark all hammered VIII maravedís to VIII, opposite to milled coinage from Segovia mint, where the VIII maravedís were countermarked to XII.

It is a common countermark, but there should be any mintmark under the value, between the two dots. I've never seen any countermark without the mintmark.

Host coin is a Felipe IV VIII maravedís from Granada mint, you can see the mint mark (G) next to the castle. It should be 1623, 1625, or 1626

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 Posted 06/18/2021  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add petterkr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is great :) Thank you for the information.
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 Posted 06/19/2021  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information.
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