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New Member
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note in photo the area of the"6" the ball of the upper part and it's separation from the loop of the "6" below it, neither the 1857 or 1858 would have this appearance.,
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Pillar of the Community
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I see where you're coming from with this, but to me, this is just the effect of the toning/coloration of the planchet. I can't make out an actual raised, even slightly raised serif. I have no opinion either way, yet, but will say, if PCGS and NGC both saw this in hand and cannot determine it to be an 1856, then...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you show a zoomed image of the word "OF" on the obverse. It had a style that was different than most 1857s and all 1858s. Other indicators are that all 1856s had "large letter" obverses as well.
Some of these would be easy to see with wear as well. Just something else to be used to "rule in" and "rule out".
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
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Sometimes you just need to prove it to PCGS or NGC. I submitted an 1873 open 3 Half Dollar and it was returned as a closed 3. I sent documentation showing the differences (just like your coin) between the open 3 and closed 3 and they were able to make the change and acknowledgment the correct attribution. I have done this quite a few times and have been successful each time.
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Factors such as wear, scratches, and lighting can easily make your eyes believe it is the date you want.
The only thing left to look at is what is visible diagnostics that make the coin a definite 1856. I agree, a close up of the OF and M in America will help.
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here is an obverse view, the OF is ghostly  |
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Pillar of the Community
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No way I can make anything out of this one. Maybe it's just the lighting, but the last digit sure looks more like an 8 here, especially what can be seen of the lower loop in the 8. I'm heading more towards 1858 on this one.
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Pillar of the Community
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There is no way you will ever get this coin graded. Sorry to tell you this, but even to get a P-01 details, they will still need to identify a date or other marker that can ID the coin.
1856 was a known rare coin not long after they were minted, to have one circulate to that point is not very likely. Not saying its impossible, just very unlikely.
Edited by RedRaider
07/09/2021 08:57 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well stated. Re-submitting it for grading would be throwing good money after bad.  |
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New Member
United States
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my plan, if the coin cannot be attributed to 1856 is to mark it as such and set it aside hoping forensic analysis will improve. With such few survivors preserving one which has potential is prudent
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow that coin is pretty smooth, there is not much left to ID.
Best of luck to you and your coin quest!
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Pillar of the Community
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I think I do see 1856. A full image of the coin would help us determine if it is genuine though.
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I agree with your plan to set it aside hoping forensic analysis improves.
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