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200x Dime Possible Struck Through Grease?

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 Posted 09/23/2021  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the Struck Through Grease camp ,
Looking at your third photo without the glare , they can be pretty deep sometimes nice find.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya photo 3 I used my hand to block the light. If you guys would like I'll take some more photos and see if I can bet a shaper picture. I find when I'm outside it much easier to filter light and get clear photos.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a different thread with a similar error, though it goes through the rim as well http://goccf.com/t/289678

So mayb struck on a damaged planchette? I'm still thinking more along the lines of struck through if it is not damage(fairly sure it's not) hmmmmm... This one's got me stumped more then my other possible struck through error. Seems more people are towards struck through then damage which is new for my threads on these topics. Is the biggest defining issue the photo quality?
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 Posted 09/23/2021  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@SP67 just noticed your post. Thank you for the link, coop has many great articles.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is a damaged planchet. If it was, the rim wouldn't be fully formed when it
went through the upsetting mill due to lack of material.
Also, common sense aside, I am sticking to the " Grease Filled Die" theory. If it was damage,
why is there not some of the copper layer and steel core showing. A gouge that deep would
surely show something.
I don't know if you have scales, but if you could weigh it, it could help determine the problem.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SP67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So maybe struck on a damaged planchette?


If the planchet was damaged before strike, we should see weak strike closed to the design elements (ex: date, beads) or even on the observe.

The missing material can't produce sharp strike on these area because of metal flow.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im at work for another 5 hours, I can weigh it tonight. I should weigh the same as a normal dime if it is struck through correct? Or mayb I'm wrong.
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Nevermind what the others say, use your logic and reasoning here:

1. The mint mark and effigy tells you it is from 2006 to 2009.
2. Therefore, the planchet is multi-ply plated steel, which is still preserved in the depression.
3. There is no weakness in the devices on the opposite side of the coin, therefore it was not struck on a damaged planchet.

If this was damage after it was stuck, there would be damage to the plating.

Thus, you have a legit strike-through error. We have no idea what it was struck though, but this is 100% legit.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your correct. A struck through does not change the weight of a coin.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think with the size of it, even if it is damaged would the weight be off by enough to be noticable? I imagine it could be a little under weight but within min tolerance though if it is a little above the normal weight or right on it would answer the question for sure. So I'll definitely weigh it when I get home. Unless I come by a scale that can measure this whole at work lol
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@SPP-Ottawa just saw your post, so I finally found myself a struck through:) I'll still weigh it tonight for extra confirmation. No idea if these are that collectable unless like the whole date or part of a major design was missing due to the struck through, I'll have to look up what these go for on ebay, I imagine a few dollars but I don't research prices much, and it is for my own reference not because I plan on trying to sell it-_- I feel like when I ask value people usually think I'm going to sell or something, but if I'm going to specialize in errors and varieties I need all of them that I can find:)
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 Posted 09/23/2021  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like very little market for these even on American coins so I'd say no market for Canadian lol, definitely a good keeper though, I'm hoping my other one turns out to be struck through rim burr so I have a few different types of them. One of these days I'll find a Cud to add to my minor error variety collection. I think I would never sell a coin unless I came across some Major American doubled die worth 1000+ which I doubt I'll ever come across lol but any error find that I don't have is a nice find for me:) thanks guys I'll post the weight tonight and hopefully it will be confirmed for any non believers that it is struck through.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SP67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Small "struck through" are quite common.

Larger is the error, better it is.

Your coin is not the largest I've seen, but it's unusual.

Many collectors could be interest by this coin.
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 Posted 09/23/2021  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a nice strike through to me. I collect these so there is a market for it. I would pay 25 to 30 for it. this is not an offer but just a hint at what I would pay. others may pay more (because I am cheap lol).
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 Posted 09/23/2021  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25-30¢ or dollars lol? I wouldn't expect it to be worth in $ lol? Though I know very little about these kind of errors let alone values. Is this fairly unique just due to the depth and position and size? I don't know the difference between one struck through error to the next, if it's in the 25-30$ range I would most definitely 2×2 it, I probably would even if it was 25-30¢ just because I want to preserve it for my collection.
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