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Medal On The Alliance Between Austria And France?

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 Posted 10/02/2021  8:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Newby Numis to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just got this medal. I could only find one picture one the internet and it said: F. Roettiers, Medal on the alliance between Austria and France, penning footage copper, Austrian and French virgin leaning on their coats of arms reach each other hand omschrift: CONCORDIA AUSTRIAE ET GALLIAE. in cut MDCCLVI Belgium Namur Belgium France. The numbers on the bottom = 1776. Anybody have a clue?

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 Posted 10/02/2021  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NetJohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
M DCC LVI is 1756, not 1776.

Looks like this commemorates the First Treaty of Versailles [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treat...illes_(1756)], part of the Diplomatic Revolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplo...Revolution).

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The Latin inscription on the obverse: "Vota Adu Aticorum" translates as "Best Wishes."

The Latin inscription on the reverse: "Concordia Austria et Galliae" translates as "The Harmony of Austria and France."

Based on the obverse iconography (i.e., the standing lion) I would suggest the medal was produced in/for Austria.


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Anyone want to guess a value? Could this be rare? The only one I have found after two days of searching is a photograph of it where they are charging up to $200 for just a photo of it?!

https://www.alamy.com/f-roettiers-m...8071318.html


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 Posted 10/03/2021  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NetJohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Alamy link is a place where you can license photos for use in publications. The $200 is not for the photo, but for the right to use the photo in a book or other media that you're going to sell. Please don't use this number for any valuation of the medal itself.

I would do more research on this before declaring rarity. Have you looked at past auction catalogs?

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Unfortunately every way I search it, the only way I have seen it come up is that photo. I want to thank you John, and Commens for your help, But I just can't find anything on this.
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 Posted 10/04/2021  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NetJohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did a few searches (ma-shops, some auctions, etc.) and didn't find anything. But I'm sure there's something else out there. I don't have any reference books on Austrian medals/tokens. Most of my scanned books (old before 1900 printing) doesn't cover this type. Just remember, rare does not necessarily mean valuable, as it's worth what someone is willing to pay. This may be very rare, one of just a few remaining, but unless there's a desire, it has no value.

Keep up the search, I'm sure something will turn up. You might be able to track down whomever is licensing the photo through Alamy and see where they got the medal to photograph.

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Here is one for sale by Numiscorner for 50 €:
https://fr.numiscorner.com/products...edium=banner

It says on the page that the medal is from Namur, Flanders, in today's Belgium. The shield with its lion is in fact the coat of arms of Namur. It says nothing about why the city of Namur made this medal, but one reason could be that they were hoping for a bit more of calm, after having been torn back and forth between France and Austria in repeated conflicts ...
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Thank you John and Erafjel. Well I see a lower quality one went for $50. Right Erafjel, countries changed a lot in Europe between the World Wars. Still waiting for the coin I can retire on. John is right, rare does not mean valuable. I want to thank you guys so much for helping me on this quest!
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