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2019 Fifty Cent Mintages Aren't So Low Anymore

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 Posted 03/03/2022  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The RAM annual reports list the production of 2019 Indigenous Languages 50c as:

2018/19 - 2.070 million
2019/20 - 0.008 million
2020/21 - 1.620 million

Can anyone explain why some bright spark in charge of the RAM website has corrected the total mintage down to 2.0 million

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 Posted 03/11/2022  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Still minting 2018 coins? Why don't they knock up a few more 1930 pennies while they're at it?


Very funny, Oz Leigh,
I got burnt on the 2019 JC 50 cent mintages as there was no asterisk next to the mintage which would indicate that it was a final mintage.
It is all a scam.
Shame on the RAM for this, I would like to sue them, anyone for a class action lawsuit?
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 Posted 03/11/2022  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i still think the numbers are still wrong

2019 JC maybe 1.5 million
2019 IRB maybe closer to 2.5-4 million
2020 JC is also up there maybe 4 million

Theses aren't hard numbers, this is from what I noodle
yeah there no point trying to speculate on the coin in the short term on those numbers, yeah people thought it would be like trying to get the 1985 Twenty Cents. Well most of the change is gonna go away what with everything on the internet these days.
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 Posted 03/11/2022  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I find a lot more 2019 JCs than IRBs (about 4 JCs for every 1 IRB)
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 Posted 10/29/2022  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So now the RAM are saying that instead of minting 70,000 JC 2019 50c in 2018/19 and 2019/20 they actually minted 2 million

Plus another 810,000 in 2020/21 means total mintage (until they change their minds again) is 2.81 million.

2019 IRB adjusted mintage is now at 1.934 million.

At least these "amended" mintages agree with my actual finding of more 2019 JC than 2019 IRB fifty cent coins whilst noodling.
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MMM I agree re finding more 2019 JC than 2019 IRB 50c.

I've found plenty 2019 JC 50c, but only ONE 2019 IRB 50c in over a year.

I reckon the RAM's mintage figures for both 2019 JC, and especially the IRB 50c, - even after the " amendments " - are completely wrong. How on earth can they go back some 4 years to suddenly realise that the mintage figures for so many denomination of coins produced back then have to now be updated ?

Which vaudevillian at the RAM was able to determine that the RAM's own production figures from eg 2018 onwards weren't " accurate " - enough ? - so that many of the mintage figures from their previous Annual Reports required an update?

Will this vaudevillian also update us with the mintage figure of the 1992 $1 Mob of Roos ?
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 Posted 11/13/2022  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the 'amended' figures the final total ? or do you add previous year totals?
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Are the 'amended' figures the final total ? or do you add previous year totals?


You have to add each year's amended figure (in 2021/22 report) to any years that weren't amended. A bit of a mess really.
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What is the final mintage of the 2020 $2 Anniversary of the 2nd World War? 2 mill? or 2.6mill?
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What is the final mintage of the 2020 $2 Anniversary of the 2nd World War? 2 mill? or 2.6mill?


RAM initially said they minted 600K in 2019/20, then amended it to 2 million (which is different from minting 600K and then minting another 2 million)

So the mintage figure is 2 million, just like almost all the other coloured 2 dollar coins.
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the 600,000 figure for the 2020 2nd WW11 anniversary $2 would have been up to last business day of June 2020 - the RAM's cutoff date for the 2019/2020 Annual Report's mintage figures. The could/should have been an asterisk next to the * 600,000 $2 figure in the RAM's 2019/2020 Annual Report.

The RAM would have continued minting these 2020 $2 coins,and all/most other denomination 2020 coins, until eg August/September 2020 and, in theory, included the revised combined final total mintage figures - up to the last business day June 2020 and the total number minted after that date - in their 2020/2021 Annual Report.

It appears as though there were 600,000 of these $2 coins minted up to the end of June 2020 and a further 1.4 million afterwards.
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