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Canadian Small Cents. I Need Some Help Identifing A Couple

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 Posted 01/18/2009  4:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I am mainly a US coin collector, but I decided to start dabbling in Canadian 5 cent silvers and Canadian small cents. The 5 cent silvers, just because I think they are cool. The small cents, because here in the state of Michigan in the US, I can get a lot of them.

So I have a 1965 that I can't figure out if it is a small bead or a large bead or a blunt 5 or a point 5. I also have a 1953 that I can't tell if it is a Shoulder strap or no shoulder strap.

Maybe someone here can help.

What do you guys think?

1st the 1965
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next the 1953

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Any help you could give to help me get these into my album I would appreciate it.

Ken
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 Posted 01/18/2009  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1953 is the NSF ... the I in DEI points between the denticles instead of at them. Sorry I don't have a reference link ... perhaps someone else will. I'll try and look up the 1965 too.
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 Posted 01/18/2009  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '65 is large beads ... and it looks like blunt 5 ... hopefully someone else will confirm this too. Nice coins :)
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 Posted 01/18/2009  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's consult the Bible, shall we?

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As to your second question, see https://goccf.com/t/40405
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 Posted 01/18/2009  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good info
Here's another pic I use (but yours is better):

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 Posted 01/18/2009  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So would you guys say that the 53 is definitely a no shoulder strap.

Also from the pictures you provided I would say large bead blunt 5?

How'd I do

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 Posted 01/18/2009  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your pics are a little blurry for me to be certain, but I also suspect your '65 is the LB blunt 5.
And WpgLwr links to some good pics on the NSF/SF varieties. On your '53, I think I'm seeing SS too.
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 Posted 01/18/2009  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking on the 53 that the "dots" for lack of the correct term looked elongated like the "No Shoulder Strap" variety but I wasn't sure.
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 Posted 01/18/2009  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to go by the denticles shape/length because they vary due to strike.
The SF and NSF cents are best determined by the position of the I in DEI.
Like that pic, SF points to a denticle, and NSF points between.

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 Posted 01/21/2009  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Notice also the shape of the "I", in NSF. It is "flared", while the SF is quite squared. The picture does not permit clarity, so it remains in doubt,
Dick
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 Posted 01/21/2009  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone gave you your answers so all I wanna say is:
Nice to see you around Dick! long time no posts!
Shawn
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 Posted 01/21/2009  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brown Cents are difficult for me to take photos of for some reason. I will try to get a better picture when I have full daylight coming in the window.

But as to the 53 and the other identifier. I agree with chequer. To me it appears pretty clear that the "I" and the "D" point to a space between denticles, which would suggest a NSS according to the resources quoted.

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