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1796 $1 Small Date, Large Letters, B-4, BB-61, R.3

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Another one that I am looking at in an auction this weekend.

Again seems to check all the authenticity boxes and the auctioneer guarantees authenticity (will send it to get graded).

From Bowers book:
OBVERSE 1: Small, wide date with 96 close and 6 tipped to the left. Raised "dot" die flaw over 1 in date and closest to bust, tiny extra projection or flaw extending from the space at the bottom of star 11 (these flaws are visible on all die states given below). This and the obverse used to strike BB-66 were the first two obverse 'dies cut in 1796, and have the lower right tip of the R in LIBERTY intact.

REVERSE A: Large letters in legend. Letters AMER crowded and touch at bases. Eight plain berries in wreath. Berry under first T in STATES. Two leaves beneath eagle's right (to observer's left) wing, these having been added by hand in front of the cloud. Small defect in field attached to two denticles below, and slightly left of, left ribbon end. From the same hub used to create 1795 BB-51 and 52, but on 1796 BB-61 not as strongly impressed, with the result that the eagle's breast feathers are not bold. Bolender mentions a die defect in the wreath extending to the right side of the M in AMERICA and the right wing tip (I have not been able to see this on any examples)

It has light adjustment marks that don't detract too much to me. Auction lists it as XF, I see it as VF30/35. Probably out of my league, we'll see.

1796-$1-Small-Date,-Large-Letters,-B-4,-BB-61,-R.3
1796-$1-Small-Date,-Large-Letters,-B-4,-BB-61,-R.3
1796-$1-Small-Date,-Large-Letters,-B-4,-BB-61,-R.3
1796-$1-Small-Date,-Large-Letters,-B-4,-BB-61,-R.3
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Tough call. I'll say VF30 overall.
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I think this is an XF-40. Probably an old polish. These adjustment marks are cool because they are there to tell a story, yet they arent very distracting.
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In doing more comparisons on Heritage, I think it is a VF-35. It will not be an XF till I own it.
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I will not even hazard a guess to the grade, because I know very little about these. I must say I thought it was 2 separate coins at first, the different lighting and being out of the 2X2 on the lower images makes it look much less worn, esp in the top of the hair and the eagles feathers.
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Can you examine the coin in-hand before bidding? If not make sure you have return privileges because something like a rim problem could make a huge value difference vs. a problem-free coin.
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Looks XF and pretty nice to boot to me. Good luck!
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obviously, some weakness in strike. I think its just short of XF so I'm at VF35
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This one sold for $4K. Probably a good deal.
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4K would be a good price so long as it grades straight. there are a couple scratches across the profile which could be adjustment marks but typically they are deeper and normally close to the rim not in the middle of the coin.
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Looks like a great deal. I would have bought at that price.
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