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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll say EF-45. I wouldn't pay anywhere near this.  Edited by Coinfrog
11/29/2021 9:23 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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AU50/53. Can't quite tell if those are hairlines on the obverse running diagonally. Price is fair assuming it's problem free.
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Bedrock of the Community
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No forelock detail visible at all, and an incomplete lower ribbon line, and you're saying AU? Thoughts appreciated. |
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Frog, I really think you're going blind. It's not only AU but high AU. Ty2020b is also a consistent undergrader outside of the Buffalo series.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
11/29/2021 10:40 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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AU-53 net grade, hairlines are a concern. Considerable luster remains, even on parts of Miss Liberty. Quote:
No forelock detail visible at all, and an incomplete lower ribbon line, and you're saying AU? Not all coins have 100% detail to start with  Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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And not all coins with luster are AU. I'll wait to see this in a straight AU holder. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't need a TPG to tell me this is an AU coin. Closer to unc than XF. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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And not all coins with luster are AU. Fair enough... Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Ty2020b is also a consistent undergrader outside of the Buffalo series I'm not sure if that was an insult or a compliment, but I'll take it as a compliment  I do tend to be a bit conservative though! Or just way off altogether! |
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The person who will always know the grade best is the OP. He has the best perspective of the coin in hand, while we have blurry photos and bad lighting.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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@Ty2020b, certainly not an insult. Just an observation and opinion based on those observations.
@jacrispies, I don't have the coin in hand. I am looking at the same seller pictures that you are. Coin grading is subjective and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. Like when saying that the lower ribbon is incomplete when it is complete.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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It does look AU, but I don't like those hairlines.
That's AU50 money you spent, fair price if it comes back straight.
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In my subjective opinion it looks XF-45 and possibly cleaned. So hard to judge from pictures alone.
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What are you using to take these pics? I've seen a few of yours that have very crisp resolution, yet some are way too blurry to be useful for this forum.
Is your phone/camera fixed, or are you holding it?
Also, autofocus has its limitations, but you can often work your way around them by "working in" to the subject. If you just magnify big and shoot, it is really hit or miss whether your camera is going to deliver. If you don't want to focus manually (really the best way to ensure quality), start your session at a much lower zoom setting. Experiment, and eventually you'll find a sweet spot where your autofocus gives you the richest high-focus resolution that you can then enlarge.
I'm no great photographer either, but I've managed to overcome some problems through trial & error.
IN my opinion, the resolution here is insufficient to determine whether the coin is XF or AU. On the obverse, there's a definite absence of detail in the hair by the back, but that could be the photo. If it is as appears, the obverse clocks in at somewhere around XF40. The reverse is quite plainly AU50 or even AU53.
Edited by pristine2
11/30/2021 08:20 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Again, these are seller's pictures. They seem amply fine to determine a grade and make a buying decision.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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