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your first coin is a "draped bust 10 cent coin. in VF20 pushing $1900 in value, SF 40 approaching $ 2850. quite a valuable coin. c really don't know enough to help you grade the coin, however it should grade quite high.
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A hearty WELCOME to the Forum. I can't tell you about any but the first one. Your placard for that one should read: US 1800 Bust Coin -- Replica.
Edited by halfabustisbetter 01/28/2009 8:29 pm
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i stand corrected. I am INCORRECT.
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Oh, replica? Can you point out to me the things to look for on this coin that so readily identify it as a replica? When handling the coin it seemed to me to be old and I had little doubt about its authenticity. But as I said, I know less than nothing about coins! Trust me, your identifying this as a fake does not bother me and if it is so then I trust your expertise. But please tell me how you could identify it so quickly.
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The coin looks grey, which means it's not silver, which after circulation should be white.
Also, the quality of the strike is a bit weak.
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I can't exactly say WHY but my first impression was that it was a copy also.....just a gut feeling I guess.
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The Greek coins aren't really my area, but there are a very Roman coins I can help you with. In the group of mounted coins the the one with the large M is a Byzantine Follis I'll need to see the other side to tell who it's of. The third one on the same row appears to be a silver Denarius of the emperor Trajan 98-117 AD.
Of the two gold coins the first is a gold solidus of the emperor Valens 364-378 AD, reverse: Valens standing holding labarum and victory on glode. from the Antioch mint.
The second one is a solidus of the emperor Valentinian I 364-375 AD, same reverse as the first, same mint.
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Thank you for the reply regarding the Roman coins. In your estimation do they look authentic?
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Yes they look OK to me. BTW on the second coin the reverse is the same except the emperor is Valentinian.
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Ancient coins are typically tricky for even an expert to judge simply from a photo, so I'm not going to offer an opinion on any but the most obvious fakes. Pic #1: As has been said, a fae early American coin. It looks like a typical quality "Chinese fake". Pic #2: Seleucid Kingdom, king Demetrios I (ruled 162-150 BC). The size isn't given, but I assume it's a tetradrachm. There's an example of the coin in the Wikipedia page for this king; here's another example of the same coin. Sadly, the date is missing from yours, so it can't be dated more precisely. If genuine, it's probably in the $100 to $200 range. Pic #3: Some of these look fine and genuine, others look fake. I'm very worried about the large silver one (Row 1 No. 2). It's decadrachm-sized, and decadrachms are normally very rare and expensive; the detail on it looks too "fuzzy" and I suspect it's a cast fake. There are others I'm really not happy with the "look", notably Row 1 No. 3 and Row 2 No. 1. The small silver one (Row 2 No. 3) is a Roman silver denarius of emperor Trajan, and looks OK. The rings and loops might affect the value, if the jeweller that attached them has actually harmed the coins in adding the ring. Row 2 No. 4 is an Athenian "owl" tetradrachm (see comments on Pic #4 below). I'd need to see the other sides to give accurate IDs of the rest. Pic #4: Many if not all of these tiny little coins appear to be "owls" of Athens, or imitations of same. By "imitations" I don't necessarily mean modern fakes; the Athenian "owl" was a popular trade coin, and the design was widely copied in ancient times by countries that traded with Athens, notably Egypt and southern Arabia. The coins of the Himyarite kingdom in Yemen particularly fit the description of some of these. Pic #5: See echizento's answer. Pic #6: This is a set of tetradrachms from the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. An expert in the series might be able to date them for you.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Quote: "owls" of Athens, They're still popular! 
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