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 Posted 03/25/2022  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jessvc1 - I do not tiptoe around issues but simply offer my personal opinion - that's what you asked for, right? I fail to see anything offensive in my replies to this thread. If so, I apologize. Really.

@numismatic student - I've always tried to give you credit due on many of the items in your vast collection but, at the same time, offer constructive criticism where appropriate. I had no idea you hold me in such low regard - I certainly won't trouble you with my opinions again.
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03/25/2022 7:09 pm
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 Posted 03/25/2022  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ jessvc1 , Coinfrog is a lot like me, we both shoot from the hip meaning we call them as we see them . No sugar coating done by us . And further more coinfrog is a highly recognized and devoted member of the CCF with about 60 years of experience under his belt .
So if he says a certain coin shouldn't be sent in for grading because he feels you might not like the results ,then just heed his recommendation or NOT but don't think he's picking a fight with you over this . Sounds like you don't want to be told your 1886 Morgan won't cut it . Give the man some slack , he will never give you or anyone bad advice .
@ numismatic student , Coinfrog and I both years ago suggested to you that you were , in our eyes spending too much money for inferior coins . Thinking we could help you but you kept saying you buy only because you like the coin in question . Again he was only trying to help you to not waste money . Cut the guy some slack he will never give you bad advice .
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 Posted 03/25/2022  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are of course free to share your opinion on many topics. Coinfrog has a knack for making coin grading personal. That is my opinion which I think I am just as free to share. I think you should reflect on why the OP and I have expressed the things that we have shared. I think it is because while you know a lot, which I readily acknowledge, you tend to be rather thoughtless and unnecessarily offensive in how you communicate what you know under the guise of "sharing your opinion." I have been here long enough to believe that some, maybe not all, of your backhanded comments are intentional. I am sure that the OP and I aren't alone in how we feel, but who knows.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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03/25/2022 8:59 pm
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 Posted 03/25/2022  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As noted, I had no idea how much you dislike me.

I've always assumed a certain correlation between wealth and intelligence, but your coarse replies suggest otherwise.
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As noted, I had no idea how much you dislike me.

I've always assumed a certain correlation between wealth and intelligence, but your coarse replies suggest otherwise.


I had no doubt that you would not engage in any form of self reflection and resort to insults.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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03/25/2022 9:02 pm
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 Posted 03/25/2022  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will all of you stop bickering please? Don't ruin the forum. It's worth keeping.

Thanks.
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 Posted 03/25/2022  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"some, maybe not all, of your backhanded comments are intentional."

You accuse me of insulting?

My last reply to this thread, and I rue the wasted hours I've spent trying, in all honesty, to reply to @numismatic student's threads over many years.
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03/26/2022 11:13 am
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 Posted 03/25/2022  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regrets may hint that you ought to conduct your life better in the future. I wish you the best going forward.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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03/25/2022 9:27 pm
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 Posted 03/26/2022  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys we know it's human nature that we argue with one another (humans). But in most all cases on CCF we just give our opinions on grades , and whether we feel a certain coin should be sent in or not . I believe the family of CCF is a tight knit group of coin collecting addicts and aficionados .
when one member attacks another member it leaves a bad taste among the community . Is this really what we want ? I feel we should all try to get along and give our honest opinions without anyone taking offence . As said before I call them as I see them (coins) ,thus giving you my honest opinion and I will only sugarcoat them if they deserve to be .
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 Posted 04/11/2022  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok I got the grades for some of these coins this was NGC MS62. I took a chance with buying around ten or so coins from this dealer and the pictures they put on ebay look so nice but the coins are almost a let down when you have them in hand. I got grades on half my coins anyway and only one came back a details "cleaned reverse damage" grade it was my 1859 quarter but if you look the picture they used for the ebay listing you can see the scratches all over it so it was no surprise when it was a details grade. I can say the seller is doing a good job getting high dollar for low grade mint state coins and AU Buffalo nickels.
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Yeah about ten or 11 years ago I used to like this forum but there are some people out there who bring the clouds and what ever excuse they have it sure is a turn off. Anyway I controlled my coin addiction for a few years then started up again.
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Thank you for the updated info. I am glad you received some straight graded coins. I would avoid Canyon City Coin at all costs in the future, all of the coins are too expensive, and they are mostly photoshopped problem coins.
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I tried to take them inside under a lamp


this is your issue with your photos, you want natural diffused lighting not in the sun and definitely not using a lamp. no light from overhead which will give the glare that washes out the surfaces.
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One of the more difficult things about collecting coins is when you have to spend money on things other than coins - supplies, books, storage, etc.
A good photo stand and/or a photo box (for diffuse lighting) are going to cost some money but will be invaluable later for keeping photos of your collection.
Once you get a good setup you can adjust your camera accordingly (white balance, etc.) and be good to go.
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I built a box but I need to invest in a good camera or I'll be paying NGC and PCGS for photos. I like the pictures NGC sent me of my Seated quarter they really make the coin look like a piece of art.
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