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What Is A Red (Rd) Copper Coin?

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PCGS - We receive a lot of questions about what constitutes a so-called Red copper coin. For many, Red is the most desirable coloration on a copper coin, yet it's also among the scarcest, particularly when considering vintage copper coins. After all, copper is one of the most volatile metals commonly used for striking coins. Copper oxidizes in even the most seemingly benign of environments, with humidity, sulfurous air, and saliva liable to cause spotting, overall discoloration, and corrosion on a copper coin.

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A Red 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent. Courtesy of PCGS TrueView. Click image to enlarge.

Red refers to the hue of fresh copper, as it would appear just after the coin is struck. Because of copper's propensity to darken over the years, only very small fractions of old copper coins are found with coloration that would numismatically be deemed Red.

According to PCGS grading guidelines, the following defines the Red designation for a copper coin: PCGS designated Red (RD) for copper coins that grade MS60 or better and show 95% or more of their original mint-red color.

Trying to distinguish between a coin that's, say, 93% or 94% versus meeting the minimum threshold of 95% Red can cause a great deal of confusion and frustration for the collector. In fact, making that call between a copper that is Red versus one that is Red-Brown, or determining that a coin is just on the cusp of being Red, is one of the most difficult elements of grading copper coins.

That's one reason so many collectors submit their copper coins to PCGS - because PCGS experts know the distinction between a coin that's Red-Brown (RB) and Red (RD) and can consistently ascribe the correct color designation to a copper coin. Not only does this take all the guesswork out of the equation for the collector, but it also instills more confidence in the collector - or a potential buyer - that the coin is legitimately a "Red."

As any connoisseur of copper coins knows, the difference between a Red and Red-Brown isn't just measured in the percentage of Red on the surface. It's also a difference often distinguished by hundreds or even thousands of dollars. That's just one of many reasons why it pays to know whether you really have an RB or Red!
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This one has been in my collection for 50 years. Would it earn the RD designation? I didn't remove it from the holder for the pics, however.
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Hard to say for sure, but that looks cleaned to me.
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It is interesting to note that NGC requires a regrade after 10 years on copper and therefore would have up to date info on the coins current grade condition, while PCGS just drops the guarantee of color for copper coins and therefore over a very long time may need to consider that when making purchases in PCGS holders. Check the coin at minimum, not the label. While you can verify the PCGS graded coin is genuine I dont see on brief look where it mentions the date of grading either. However if grading to sell a coin within the next decade then PCGS may offer better resale pricing in some cases.

PCGS Director of Education Mike Sherman explained for grading that a full red copper coin will display 95% or more of its original color, while red & brown will display anywhere between 5% and 95% of its original red color which should help in self grading some of them. Brown (BN) (Less than 5% of original red color visible). On all Mint State and Proof copper coins (Half Cents, Large Cents, Small Cents, Two Cent Pieces and some patterns) one of the three color ratings is assigned. https://www.PCGS.com/news/a-look-at...designations

PCGS: Coins exhibiting environmental deterioration: The PCGS Guarantee does not apply to coins exhibiting environmental deterioration subsequent to PCGS grading and encapsulation. This deterioration may include, but is not limited to, spotting, hazing, PVC contamination, changes in color, and corrosion. PCGS: IMPORTANT: Because the color and surfaces of copper coins can change due to environmental factors, including weather and improper storage, PCGS does not guarantee against changes in the color of copper coins, or against copper spotting subsequent to grading and encapsulation by PCGS.
"We've also made a change in how we handle the guarantee of color for copper coins. The fact is that color for copper can change depending upon where a coin is stored. The villain is humidity, and if you have mint red copper coins stored in Hawaii or Florida, for example, there's a good chance that the environmental factors can alter the color of the coins. This is obviously beyond our control so consequently we will not be guaranteeing the color of copper coins graded or sold after January 1, 2010."

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