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Hi, In 1999 September. the mint up-grade the line of production with principal the way the Dies are fix on the shafts (one position only) in order to eliminate some operators miss alignments. So from that moment the tolerances was 2.5 Deg left or right. For me is correct because nothing could be perfect. So I buy in bulk some coins, mix with tokens and others collectable things. Inside the bulk this slabbed coin. Correct at PR70, nothing to say, but when I see have 17.5 Deg WS deviation which it is far over the tolerances. My question: The PCGS state that 3 Graders look every coin; so what kind of graders are not to see the axial coin design is not correct. I understand for the old coins on old Mint lines the tolerances was bigger. But today? Like to see yours opinions. Here the photos:  Edited by silviosi
04/09/2022 02:17 am
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If the person that submitted the coin didn't pay for the rotated die attribution, it won't be noted on the slab.
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If the person that submitted the coin didn't pay for the rotated die attribution, it won't be noted on the slab.  |
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I understand they have a business and to do profit. I do not understand why they do not change according by the new technology. Also we can't grade an 2000 and over with the same stile like for 1950 coin. different technology and also way to strike the coins, so different way to look at. The only ones who call if you have something, at least happened to me was ANACS and VSS.
PS: I do not look for others things then varieties. for me this it is a variety. Reason: because if this coin was struck like this, others must exist so it is a variety. It is not an momentum or planchet etc error is a variety.
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04/09/2022 08:24 am
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Silviosi - a beautiful specimen. I agree with your statement about it most likely being a variety and am curious if anyone else has found any.
You state that the machines were retrofitted in late 1999 to prevent gross mis-alignment- do you have any speculation how this coin got misaligned?
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In my opinion the laser driver was stop and operator change the shaft-Die, and when tide the shaft move some degrees; then start the press. It is my only explanation. I still say it is varieties and been proof must be around 7.5 to max. 10K coins with this Die. It is to find the sisters and the brothers.
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I believe the axis of the obverse pic [yellow line] is slightly CW which would put the reverse slightly CCW.  |
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@Cent: Me I just flip the slab and I see. I have others coins slate angles and I see when I flip in the hand, and I am not a grader.
PS: Thanks for the line I have 3 or 4 photo soft, 2 cameras a Sonny and a Nikon and my brother give me two objectives one Laika and one KarlsZeite, but is complicate for me. so I learn just how to take photos without flash with incandescent light and take out the glare with the soft. The rest is for others not for me.
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04/09/2022 1:50 pm
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"@Cent: Me I just flip the slab and I see. I have others coins slate angles and I see when I flip in the hand, and I am not a grader.
PS: Thanks for the line I have 3 or 4 photo soft, 2 cameras a Sonny and a Nikon and my brother give me two objectives one Laika and one KarlsZeite, but is complicate for me. so I learn just how to take photos without flash with incandescent light and take out the glare with the soft. The rest is for others not for me."The yellow lines were my way of showing that it looks normal [within tolerance] to me. One side slightly CW, the other side slightly CCW. And because US coins have coin alignment, they match up.
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04/09/2022 6:18 pm
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it's off a little, but mostly just rotated in the holder
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I put here flip the coin, and thanks again to CENT:  |
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