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Morgan Fred Rest in Peace United States 2684 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 11:33 am From the ebay Coins and Paper Money Forum: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...m=7304922566 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...m=7305395340 Navigating around the auctions: Both are for the identical 1881CC PCGS MS-65 (green label) Morgan. Both are from China sellers with zero feedback. Both auctions have bidders; one has 21 bids. Both sellers have multiple NGC and PCGS Morgans listed, all mid-MS grade 1880's Morgans. Both have really nice pics of the coins. Wanna bet the bidders are buying just downloaded pictures? Report this Post to the Staff

Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 11:57 am I reported those two and the other two identical auctions (1882CC Morgan) that were both being sold by fengqinglianren. Although the titles are different, the pictures are identical. Also, the high bidder on the one being sold by goodluck5188 is also a 0 feedback user. This all looks very suspicious. This looks like a pretty good scam-in-the-making. Report this Post to the Staff
collect4fun Pillar of the Community United States 1151 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 12:05 pm Why would a bidder, ffd414, raise his/ her own bid 6 times, $145 in 1 minute and 31 seconds? Would you say they are working with the seller? Schilling? Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 12:11 pm Could be....could be.... This could be a matter of all of these being the same user, also, in an attempt to build feedback so they can look more reputable when they start selling raw "genuine" coins. Obviously, if that is what they're attempting, they're also not being very intelligent about it. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgan Fred Rest in Peace United States 2684 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 1:12 pm I sent the buyer of #2566 a message stating it is likely a fraud. ebay and the seller might not like this, but tough kazooties. Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 1:31 pm Just be careful with that, Fred. ebay can and will ban users for what is deemed "interference" in an auction. Personally, I think you did the right thing and I thank you. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgan Fred Rest in Peace United States 2684 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 8:19 pm quote: Originally posted by Susanlynn9 Just be careful with that, Fred. ebay can and will ban users for what is deemed "interference" in an auction. Personally, I think you did the right thing and I thank you. Yeah, I was aware that ebay frowned on it, but I did it anyway with eyes wide open. I don't do it often and those few times I have contacted a buyer with a warning, I know I'm laying my head on the chopping block, but I rationalize it under "buyer education" and "fraud prevention". Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/04/2005 8:25 pm Well, I have to confess that I have done the same thing on occasion and no one has ever reported me. I think you only get reported for that if you happen to contact a schill bidder or something. Report this Post to the Staff
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